Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:49122) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RRZoL-0003YK-I5; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:48 -0800 Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29sf9409497qyk.16 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=DOOt2VAA/4SFGVh/kw2S42tUQMebB0yr01j9zMnhzlQ=; b=YnRSf0GCsclVEVdf8YmAUHuLHxL7J5wPhB41xP5obtspUQX6GNsGBTI19Vk9p/P8uq WX+Ivc2LS0ZOKGjy0x8p+U7zBCKU2lgKVh0RTaZFAnW5Q+S+Xpnqk8GRoWR0bJk+t7VN IO0XTK464D5doqIfuZk8DmOMWub9awjsdbemo= Received: by 10.224.78.197 with SMTP id m5mr758142qak.6.1321666412520; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.161.68 with SMTP id q4ls7102925qcx.0.gmail; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.198.6 with SMTP id em6mr2378844qab.0.1321666411906; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.198.6 with SMTP id em6mr2378843qab.0.1321666411896; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si1089020qcq.0.2011.11.18.17.33.31; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20111119013331430.SFXX22085@cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:33:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H65ZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=lqrqKSBOoIAA:10 a=v-e_UCCTQVEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=MULE0wUl3kwhtMuGT1AA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:39210] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id DB/20-13401-0C507CE4; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:26:25 +0000 Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EDB2158C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:26:21 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words, sort of: catlu vs. zgana Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:26:17 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20111106230135.GM21434@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111118081544.GB2500@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111182026.18842.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Friday 18 November 2011 16:48:51 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Robin Lee Powell > >=A0How do you fix ganse when you ignore the gi'uste? > > Just remove "property" and "(ka)": > > x1 [observer] senses/detects/notices stimulus x2 by means x3 under > conditions x4. Wouldn't that break "ga'ezga"? I coined that lujvo for "perceives something= to=20 have a quality" because "ganse" has a property place. Pierre --=20 Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.