Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:45825) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RRmCz-0007z7-IS; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:48:03 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf4732622bka.16 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4E1ThU04W/TxH3iAU1+VjiZ33tpGf+0o2i58hk2cM+Q=; b=o9zb9aMPCLVVEWksV923btjIImpadeOvvqqZ6j3w+KVLw0MKDoMS4R1Gmko4OQjclz eP7dFVvli+lwMkMd6gnQBubzYnz64bVhJUnU1HCFWIlovbUIjujQon8D1VwmjVj3uEBT AERtXoxu85OeszajfsdDWpWjKwCwUJYI2a6l0= Received: by 10.204.153.6 with SMTP id i6mr834760bkw.27.1321714066297; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:46 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.56.81 with SMTP id x17ls2419906bkg.1.gmail; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.0.73 with SMTP id 9mr1077535bka.4.1321714065209; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.0.73 with SMTP id 9mr1077534bka.4.1321714065194; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i17si4638821fai.0.2011.11.19.06.47.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.53; Received: by mail-fx0-f53.google.com with SMTP id n15so5901143faa.26 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.102.148 with SMTP id fo20mr4608007lab.51.1321714064999; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201111182026.18842.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <20111106230135.GM21434@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111118081544.GB2500@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111182026.18842.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:47:44 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words, sort of: catlu vs. zgana From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday 18 November 2011 16:48:51 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> >> x1 [observer] senses/detects/notices stimulus x2 by means x3 under >> conditions x4. > > Wouldn't that break "ga'ezga"? I coined that lujvo for "perceives somethi= ng to > have a quality" because "ganse" has a property place. I'd use kairga'e for that: x1 ganse lo nu x2 ckaji x3 kei x4 x5 But you could also not bring up properties: "lo cevni cu ganse lo nu lo gusni cu xamgu". mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.