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On Wednesday 16 November 2011 23:44:29 maikxlx wrote:
> So, would you have us write {lo si'o [za'e] grezunca'a cu se finti la
> .caklis.}?
>
> I believe that pretty much {lo si'o broda} = {lo sidbo be lo broda}, where
> lo broda is again is a reference to a kind with clearly _no_
> actuals/mundanes/instances, either needed or wanted.  Would you rewrite {lo
> broda cu sidbo} as {lo si'o broda cu sidbo}?

"si'o" is the idea abstractor; it abstracts a bridi, just like any other 
abstractor. "lo si'o cmuxu'i" is different from "lo si'o selratni", even 
though "lo cmuxu'i" is the same as "lo selratni" (the rest of the places are 
different).

That said, I'm not sure what exactly "si'o broda" means, except for measuring 
units. "lo si'o mitre" is "the meter", since "lo mitre" means not "a meter" 
but "something measured in meters". "mi mitre li cifi'ure" implies "mi mitre" 
even though I am longer than a meter. And lo mitre clearly exists.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

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