2011/11/19 J= onathan Jones <ey= eonus@gmail.com>

Personally, I like the bridi man as the logo, and the old double-circle thi= ng as the flag. I don't think we need a new one of either.

On Sat, Nov 1= 9, 2011 at 2:25 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

E=3Dmc^2 has naught to do with Logi= c, of course, nor does the sequence of prime numbers (well, a little), so t= hat point got lost.=A0 The earliest Lojban logo used intersecting circles (= from Venn diagrams) and a doubled headed arrow (from one standard presentat= ion of propositional calculus).=A0 But, of course, those are known only to = people who have some acquaintance (however slight) to modern logic (since 1= 858 or so). Nothing universal springs to mind, since Logic, in this sense, = at least, is an almost completely Euro-American phenomenon.=A0 There is a m= arkedly different tradition in India (which might be symbolized with someth= ing picturing smoke on a mountain revealing fire).=A0 The early (and quickl= y quelled) Chinese tradition doesn't lend itself easily to depiction (h= ow do you draw a white horse not being a horse -- nor white?).=A0 The Islamic tradition tra= nsmitted and tidied up the Greek version to the West, which had received on= ly a very dubious recension directly.=A0 So, as I said, this is a Western t= radition and maybe we just have to face that an use Western logos -- not th= at I can think of one that really works for non-logicians.

From: M. Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 19, 2011 3:02:2= 5 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] New lo= go; a work in progress

As I said, it's a work in progress that needs opinions= . So, here's the first question:
I symbolized logic using the 'E=3Dmc^2' equation and a short s= equence of prime numbers. But that doesn't seem to work. Like symbolizi= ng language by the shape of some talking people, how do you symbolize logic= in a=A0culturally=A0neutral way? And how do you symbolize the offspring; t= he Lojban language itself?

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