Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:56948) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RSE5I-0000yk-GN; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:34:01 -0800 Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10sf5186007vbb.16 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:33:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-ct-class:x-ct-score:x-ct-refid:x-ct-spam :x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score:message-id:date:from:user-agent :x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ORJerTZU+IMRjMfAcbZosRSILIIEhtrDTfpFp1SYFKY=; b=E96IL80bKy5iEsQX64BTbvRMLh1m8Ec1eWrUeS96cJJJybWKOCQoEfpo9WOLxpfKap knwAvvyr44edcTDDxwioNjDf5ggfpvb3sNU0k8CvfjiOQpdwAeNJRkt+EVihYvxMQG/o qmbiI/hwh4LVX9LwDUbxyn9GdwxnGWuGTU1gk= Received: by 10.52.76.71 with SMTP id i7mr4094064vdw.19.1321821223406; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:33:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.81.139 with SMTP id x11ls8924565vck.5.gmail; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.90.36 with SMTP id bt4mr15241454vdb.7.1321821222632; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.90.36 with SMTP id bt4mr15241453vdb.7.1321821222626; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net. [68.230.241.215]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bu17si3867483vdc.0.2011.11.20.12.33.42; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.215; Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111120203342.BHMY28068.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net> for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:33:42 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([70.187.237.100]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id zYZh1h00C2AfMYu02YZhev; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:33:42 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.4EC96426.0021,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=cdJjHAINPiZBdT+VAeFfLOvj93neuvwrRIGsWSZO+Cw= c=1 sm=1 a=dYDkaTZZu5wA:10 a=LNyRDDSfcIoA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=MQZuvjT3xUZLKv0gclfWMg==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zmB2E2z9X_Dqxop5W1QA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=MQZuvjT3xUZLKv0gclfWMg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4EC96423.3010503@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:33:39 -0500 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like References: <1321501066.64722.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321633769.30584.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321640207.88557.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EC705DD.8060202@lojban.org> <4EC79CEB.8000002@lojban.org> <4EC8F072.3070501@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / tijlan wrote: > On 20 November 2011 15:02, maikxlx wrote: > >>(1) {x1 ka'e [selbri] x2 x3 [...]} would be a transformation of: >> >>(2) {x1 kakne lo nu ce'u [selbri] x2 x3 [...]}, and vice versa. > > > I consider the following transformations as well: > > ko'a ca'a broda > --> lo nu ko'a broda cu fatci ca'a cannot equate to any sort of unspecified-tense bridi. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.