Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:43317) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RSEpT-0001CT-14; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:42 -0800 Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10sf5288101vbb.16 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UbP6PQ9VQAFtLbPE0jVlnYB2BwbIl05xuP4SbeZ8Kjo=; b=tmEpTsGgQwnrVwdvMVbLVHuyiuHAdeubZWZbOmncRBW3u6VzAYaghYlsWUoiDh4srW 96cT/j17mQ5PidPmq1L68Ug+uqudnoUw9WanQEnBptOVs2EW+v42V+VYcPxd5DXWDwOl yazEml7CmaH1lL0h0W8fBdIJIPb4CjEJNFnW8= Received: by 10.52.173.110 with SMTP id bj14mr5328698vdc.3.1321824085843; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.167.19 with SMTP id u19ls5616451ano.7.gmail; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.152.17 with SMTP id e17mr3469443ano.9.1321824085129; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.152.17 with SMTP id e17mr3469442ano.9.1321824085113; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e24si2514881ybi.3.2011.11.20.13.21.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.172; Received: by yenm7 with SMTP id m7so1398956yen.3 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.4.38 with SMTP id h6mr25365148pbh.5.1321824084868; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.224.8 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:21:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EC9635E.70004@lojban.org> References: <1321501066.64722.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321633769.30584.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321640207.88557.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EC705DD.8060202@lojban.org> <4EC79CEB.8000002@lojban.org> <4EC8F072.3070501@lojban.org> <4EC9635E.70004@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:21:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like From: maikxlx To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: maikxlx@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=maikxlx@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Robert LeChevalier wro= te: > maikxlx wrote: > In other words >> >> (1) {x1 ka'e [selbri] x2 x3 [...]} would be a transformation of: >> >> (2) {x1 kakne lo nu ce'u [selbri] x2 x3 [...]}, and vice versa. > > I avoid commenting on ce'u since I understand lambda calculus even less t= han > xorlo. =A0I don't SEE anything wrong with this, but I doubt if I would ev= en if > it was wrong %^) > I make errors with {ce'u}, because I keep forgetting which NU are supposed to take them and which aren't. Intuitively, I want to be able to use {ce'u} specify the role that a {kakne} has the innate capability of playing in a {se kakne}, and unthinkingly I reach for {ce'u}. I think the meaning is clear enough, though I don't really know if it is allowed by the rules. I dare say it should be. > You aren't missing much. =A0Traffic averages maybe 4 messages a month, wi= th > half or more being reminders of an apparently weekly chat session on Seco= nd > Life, or comments from people saying that they won't be at some particula= r > such session. > > I thus suspect that the best way to talk to a TLI Loglanist is to get a > Second Life account, and be in the relevant place and time on Saturdays (= not > really knowing how Second Life works). > > Or just send email to xorxes (who probably uses the language better than = JCB > did), or possibly Lojbanist/Loglanist Cyril Slobin %^) > Thanks for the help, but it doesn't seem worth bothering anyone over. > lojbab > mu'o mi'e .maik. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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