Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:59073) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RSRkC-0001uI-IA; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:09:06 -0800 Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10sf6480196vbb.16 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bY9A0VAdie8jQdSr5NkGmt5RNtliabyct7AB7hCGm+4=; b=EXsfKcDhvCEYF2XoR5SPaCm3com3fPtLlAKAk2EAplzWLfRdFE23BIM+WMfrbxSuFT W6fmPiCcGMjnHbDDzHFcEb1nPTVDMs2kjdHhLmp8bbCmBsUhTKpZtD8CK2WvmHEeAwWV p94wLLsHljPbZq5JXPoPZ5KnYROUzHN4zHMmw= Received: by 10.52.186.195 with SMTP id fm3mr1264339vdc.2.1321873684564; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.7.146 with SMTP id d18ls11408972vcd.4.gmail; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr17953747vdh.3.1321873683242; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr17953746vdh.3.1321873683231; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cn4si4786694vdb.3.2011.11.21.03.08.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.182; Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so2339819vcb.27 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.141.68 with SMTP id rm4mr2879609obb.23.1321873683062; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.57.228 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <32839884.2475.1321723578870.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcm23> <1321737902.387.YahooMailRC@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CE75F02E0D3506-1398-1089C2@webmail-m144.sysops.aol.com> <4EC990E2.1020502@gmail.com> <4EC9A0F8.7040809@kli.org> <1321846070.68816.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:08:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: New logo; a work in progress From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 21 November 2011 09:56, la klaku wrote: > On 21 Nov., 04:27, John E Clifford wrote: >> It's an endemic disease among epigones, slightly less severe than the ur= ge to >> design a new alphabet for the language or to traslate some virtually >> untranslatable work form its English translation. =A0Chill! Each one fad= es away, >> usually before the next comes along. > > That was horribly said, and it being true doesn't help at all. > The Lojban flag/logo is completely unnecessary. We have no army or > illiterate people. > The symbols "la .lojban." already conveys all that needs to be > conveyed, The language itself needs no logo, but an abstract symbol can help increase people's awareness of the project. I tend to take more time remembering what a page with no favicon in my bookmark was about than those with one. I tend to more skip or fail to notice an item when I look for an add-on on the Firefox website. An iPhone app with a logo is more appealing than those without. I generally dislike the excessive and pretentious advertisements in our modern life, but I think a neat logo is good than not for the community development. mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.