Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:40036) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RSqpL-0006Na-Ru; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:56:05 -0800 Received: by qyk15 with SMTP id 15sf409881qyk.16 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=tWwq6Wwo0iuBBbW7mljh+IU7YI9U0ofoZ7h+ydp4iNA=; b=t0tqqWE1Pt7iYSrkDN54L6QCg91/5FEaZa9HCgyJZkp/OUGTHhGWN+GcUYwZ2LlnIn T4VFR0khsjUgnQF+7lfH9+ACg2T+e+wmRG8CvhHHcaQKHEc7PcqjAZN0owenBhC/HEOJ XIDowqNJLDlkWDeLWXbBE+C2Y5FtLl9/omktA= Received: by 10.224.191.1 with SMTP id dk1mr3231620qab.9.1321970150840; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.184.209 with SMTP id cl17ls632054qab.0.gmail; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.104.69 with SMTP id n5mr7857994qao.3.1321970150308; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.104.69 with SMTP id n5mr7857991qao.3.1321970150301; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.216.186]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j29si6352706qcs.2.2011.11.22.05.55.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jakobnybonissen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.186 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.186; Received: by mail-qy0-f186.google.com with SMTP id 1so518471qyc.23 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.187.10 with SMTP id cu10mr3222267qab.13.1321970150261; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by m10g2000vbc.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:55:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <089315c1-e35b-4231-b2a8-4a813aeff88a@m10g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: How {tu'e} works with prenexes? From: la klaku To: lojban X-Original-Sender: jakobnybonissen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jakobnybonissen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.186 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jakobnybonissen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Yes, a tu'e...tu'u bracket can mark the scope of a prenex. In that case, the variables da, de, di ect. would remain the same until tu'u is uttered. Another way is to string several bridi together with logical connectives: {da klama ije da cliva} does the same as your sentence. (note that you can drop the prenex). If neither of these two methods are used, the prenex scope ends with the bridi. On 22 Nov., 06:15, ".arpis." wrote: > In particular, if I have something like {da zo'u tu'e da klama .i da > cliva}, is it necessarily the same {da}? Is there another way to accomplish > this in multiple sentences (other than binding {da} to e.g. {ko'a} with > {goi})? > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.