Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:43451) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RT1zq-0003f5-Ms; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:35 -0800 Received: by yenm9 with SMTP id m9sf217828yen.16 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WzPNfyBNJZ/soH9a+XN5NHNp8XiPWtQ6Kvin+5RulcQ=; b=lUXKV+enMhPJXBOiTSvLJn2WubbC6kcomNRM8GXgxQJwtEcn+7fdk+B6OWFHILDoFn 4v9Fa3wjx6nYAH6JoMrRoOuPrS9DcwdKdgNP9CzZQajOrlgAmwMsNEFCPrX5Ar5dXYz2 eeMAW26OZcUZUQrYuDl9NW5Kv4pX9lRmVLjRw= Received: by 10.236.185.129 with SMTP id u1mr173943yhm.12.1322013085806; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.182.17 with SMTP id j17ls1939490anp.6.gmail; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.157.1 with SMTP id n1mr3020993yhk.3.1322013085182; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.157.1 with SMTP id n1mr3020992yhk.3.1322013085163; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f47.google.com (mail-yw0-f47.google.com [209.85.213.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h59si1266883yhm.5.2011.11.22.17.51.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.47; Received: by ywb20 with SMTP id 20so797424ywb.20 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.42.100 with SMTP id n4mr3292741pbl.38.1322013084875; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.224.8 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:51:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1321501066.64722.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321633769.30584.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321640207.88557.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EC705DD.8060202@lojban.org> <4EC79CEB.8000002@lojban.org> <4EC8F072.3070501@lojban.org> <4ECC2906.1020809@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like From: maikxlx To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: maikxlx@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=maikxlx@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / I need to correct the last email. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:37 PM, maikxlx wrote: > > (1) na ku ni'i ku mi la'e de'u djica > > How would you translate that? =A0To me it seems to mean "not logically > because of something, I want it." =A0In other words I do in fact want > it, but me wanting it does not logically follow from some unspecified > thing. =A0Moving the {na ku} doesn't seem to help: > Sorry, (1) actually seems to me to mean "it is not the case that logically because something I want it", which still does not mean "not necessarily". > it" can be gotten, I see even less how the inherence "but someone else I meant inference, not inherence. > mu'o mi'e .maik. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.