Received: from mail-pz0-f56.google.com ([209.85.210.56]:48943) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RURl9-0000qe-0r; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:23 -0800 Received: by pzk6 with SMTP id 6sf1925778pzk.1 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-pgp-key :x-pgp-keyid:x-cunselcu'a-valsi:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=UDWZOFcc6j7rwMrbDBKY57kVCnaKR3fRku/g0Byxczs=; b=yKRfJVWG1r9NsjLuTSF5eRJV0qpXnbdTH3s1QwpPFAHUg9e7JfpxH/qRZa7Gq22UvH UC+nA3r3ZI9l9ymOACa2uvnMnaGCE7fBJ3pRxX2QBSPPxaN3LMybSdgx5ZsCiIWunzIk np8rjskxJn3F4PuCRstbwW4BgEKrqOslzOdnU= Received: by 10.68.25.232 with SMTP id f8mr1947119pbg.2.1322350446351; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.42.101 with SMTP id n5ls5476386pbl.6.gmail; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.36.6 with SMTP id m6mr17547722pbj.4.1322350445726; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.36.6 with SMTP id m6mr17547721pbj.4.1322350445714; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lj6si5555572pbb.1.2011.11.26.15.34.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.94.73.19; Received: from gonzales.homelinux.org (root@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAQNY4SJ015601 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:34:05 GMT Received: from martin by gonzales.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RURky-0004hY-Rg for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:34:04 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:34:04 -0500 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] semantic parser - tersmu-0.1rc1 Message-ID: <20111126233404.GD19833@gonzales> References: <20111124044118.GF6112@gonzales> <20111126112901.GA27177@gonzales> <20111126154114.GC27177@gonzales> <1322328772.59139.YahooMailRC@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111126175610.GB15113@gonzales> <5525A83D-7C2C-4B0C-AC06-7256D1F7023B@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="veXX9dWIonWZEC6h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5525A83D-7C2C-4B0C-AC06-7256D1F7023B@yahoo.com> X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: vibna User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Saturday, 2011-11-26 at 17:29 -0600 - John E. Clifford : >=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Martin Bays wrote: >=20 > > * Saturday, 2011-11-26 at 09:32 -0800 - John E Clifford : > >=20 > >> This latter is true also of non-restrictive relative clauses, but they > >> are simply separate sentences: {lo proda noi brode cu brodi} is {lo > >> broda cu brodi .ije lo broda cu brode}. > >=20 > > But what about {ro da noi brode cu brodi}? And {na ku ro da noi brode cu > > brodi}? > >=20 > Well, I don't understand this really, but it doesn't seem to change > the rule,I.e. =3D { ro da brodi .I roda brode}. {poi} just makes > a restricted quantifier, "all brode". And also {na ku ro da noi brode cu brodi} -> {na ku ro da brodi .i je ro da brode}, the noi-clause breaking out of the scope of the negation? --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk7Rd2wACgkQULC7OLX7LNYz0wCdHCBWqfGcQzrOMX/a348Mi15t lb0AnA1e0FQC216SePqKdzUwyOmyMdg9 =Inau -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h--