Received: from mail-pz0-f56.google.com ([209.85.210.56]:51674) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RUkOR-0001Oj-M4; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:28:12 -0800 Received: by pzk6 with SMTP id 6sf3013359pzk.1 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:27:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-pgp-key :x-pgp-keyid:x-cunselcu'a-valsi:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=xn7ABhFBPldmfoGh/6lYBY3Ucjw/fz+irau069P19u4=; b=uXc+PRfj3eIWDBqYrkulvCKNqruV8FrhexXq+BAPYnvgWd8WTTnHk3T2jXPuEHrvQt S/Cre9SGLj1BFceW/aC1X0VIwoiHAStzETvZdYxfgAGaRHkTZpjBo7s7ZLPFnLEKfTWZ kL6kH23nam5RoDMqZ/aClEAJbfJKrIDRNV6jw= Received: by 10.68.32.138 with SMTP id j10mr2487247pbi.17.1322422075227; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:27:55 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.121.5 with SMTP id lg5ls10499710pbb.5.gmail; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.0.170 with SMTP id 10mr21686305pbf.2.1322422074698; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.0.170 with SMTP id 10mr21686304pbf.2.1322422074690; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lj6si8615688pbb.1.2011.11.27.11.27.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.94.73.19; Received: from gonzales.homelinux.org (root@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pARJRr7h022234 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:27:54 GMT Received: from martin by gonzales.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RUkOH-0007HF-M6 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:27:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:27:53 -0500 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] No title, since the subject will have changed by the time it gets there Message-ID: <20111127192753.GF3125@gonzales> References: <1322084099.71575.YahooMailRC@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111125034454.GI6112@gonzales> <1BC62F1A-FC02-415D-8863-BA795809DB95@yahoo.com> <20111127163616.GC3125@gonzales> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eDB11BtaWSyaBkpc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: cuntu User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --eDB11BtaWSyaBkpc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Sunday, 2011-11-27 at 15:49 -0300 - Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > > > > (Except that it only works if the unfilled second place of {du} is > > interpreted correctly... it would be nice to have a clearer way of > > getting at the always-true unary predicate. Do we have one?) >=20 > I suggest "suzdu'o", defined as: >=20 > ko'a suzdu'o =3D=3D su'o da zo'u ko'a du da Not bad - but if {su'o} is a singular quantifier, and {du} works as I'd expect, then that holds only when {ko'a} has only one referent. --eDB11BtaWSyaBkpc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk7SjzkACgkQULC7OLX7LNZbsACdHkXooaxQ2dlueKnY71SjAGuf flsAnR2U06NrXjJIfGVekGRck80Tf5VX =bBfG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eDB11BtaWSyaBkpc--