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Jorge Llamb=EDas, On 27/11/2011 17:12:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM, And Rosta<and.rosta@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Jorge Llamb=EDas, On 26/11/2011 17:35:
>>>
>>> Assuming
>>>
>>> (1) le broda =3D zo'e noi mi ke'a do skicu lo ka broda
>>>
>>> (2) ko'a voi broda =3D ko'a noi mi ke'a do skicu lo ka broda
>>
>> I think they're both wrong. The "noi" would introduce an illocutionary
>> element I-HEREBY-ASSERT-INCIDENTALLY, that is not present in "le broda =
=3D
>> ko'a voi broda". Rather, "le broda =3D ko'a voi broda" involve an
>> illocutionary element DEI-KE'A-DO-SKICU, "I-HEREBY-NONVERIDICALLY-SAY".
>
> I think the "I-HEREBY-ASSERT" part is not really in noi, but rather
> it's the default illocutionary operator for otherwise unmarked
> propositions, but it can be changed with "noi xu ...", "noi .a'o ...",
> "noi .ei ...", "noi .e'o ..." and so on.
>
> And "voi", assuming it's a variant of "noi" and not of "poi", should
> then be something like "noi pe'a".

That's a good analysis, but it requires you to distinguish between clauses =
that contain no illocutionary operator and that clauses that contain an exp=
licit or implicit illocutionary operator, since noi clauses would belong to=
 the latter type. =20

--And.

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