Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:61816) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVE06-00069J-QY; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:05:03 -0800 Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33sf5912024pzk.16 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:04:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-pgp-key :x-pgp-keyid:x-cunselcu'a-valsi:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=UTD0ciqWZq2pQitkUMzNJelAWC+5JDW4dgd4mr3lyOI=; b=xLU9TSIKWcV06XlGzoM8mRQASUMz632aw0YX0JAiwfK4JtxEtwHCnUg4A2GQ3ZIi+L R+JSUV2VeX48xbrLx2Efsjw7pdoLf2wzaye+woXdb6dQX1tbvJhej6ZD62PC7pYiw0dh tmjsY6vRkLV1MRQdGx3NBQmnVym8vHYhIzQlg= Received: by 10.68.31.136 with SMTP id a8mr1153922pbi.9.1322535885990; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:04:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.74.199 with SMTP id w7ls2442045pbv.7.gmail; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.15.105 with SMTP id w9mr29190149pbc.7.1322535885201; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.15.105 with SMTP id w9mr29190147pbc.7.1322535885193; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u7si3454305pbn.2.2011.11.28.19.04.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.94.73.19; Received: from gonzales.homelinux.org (root@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAT34i0q006390 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:04:44 GMT Received: from martin by gonzales.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RVDzw-0001gm-CX for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:04:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:04:44 -0500 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] semantic parser - tersmu-0.1rc1 Message-ID: <20111129030444.GA26300@gonzales> References: <20111124044118.GF6112@gonzales> <20111126112901.GA27177@gonzales> <20111126154114.GC27177@gonzales> <20111126182915.GC15113@gonzales> <20111126214806.GB19833@gonzales> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: muslo User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Saturday, 2011-11-26 at 19:12 -0300 - Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > > > > Yes, I know you prefer to use constant kinds in these situations, but > > would you *allow* temporally varying interpretations of {lo bradi} in > > {ro roi mi'o jinga fi lo bradi}? >=20 > ("ro roi ku") >=20 > > And if I say 'please'? >=20 > I allow it in the same sense I allow temporally varying > interpretations of "mi" in "ro roi ku do viska mi". "mi" refers to one > thing, but it is also true that each time you see me you see something > different. And do you similarly really want {ko'a .e ko'e lo broda cu brode} to not be equivalent to {ge ko'a lo broda cu brode gi ko'e lo broda cu brode}, in that the value of {lo broda} can be different in the two occurances in the latter but must be constant in the former? That complicates things significantly, you know. Martin --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk7US8wACgkQULC7OLX7LNYl5wCeKbQ3EQbigjX/ea7kcjk6rZx9 QaQAni9p0utMintO965weOEBO+xYEXEA =o2qu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw--