Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:60809) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVWd0-0008Ap-HH; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:58:27 -0800 Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33sf224071pzk.16 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-pgp-key :x-pgp-keyid:x-cunselcu'a-valsi:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=4p3g0v7BPrfcnyTOaoX8q/q7bECVYCm26RCXrgtKo0c=; b=tbGlB4AaF0lOtOfihEEC+zlxaywSGCDhByyByh96Bw7imvn7/T7gYHb6whI6YV/FQS 9PfABgPuQIolgf5Q/0kDhYyLBankbntHGOat+wve3izebeb9phJPMJiEdMP6xjdEPxqs Y5hnHkac3bexKTijpYhn9DFgNvxsk3oWa2K34= Received: by 10.68.38.166 with SMTP id h6mr139021pbk.14.1322607489727; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:58:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.12.106 with SMTP id x10ls5672927pbb.3.gmail; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.59.229 with SMTP id c5mr941376pbr.6.1322607489163; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.59.229 with SMTP id c5mr941374pbr.6.1322607489153; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u7si703376pbn.2.2011.11.29.14.58.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.94.73.19; Received: from gonzales.homelinux.org (root@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pATMw810014522 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:58:08 GMT Received: from martin by gonzales.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RVWcq-00063J-Ae for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:58:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:58:08 -0500 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] semantic parser - tersmu-0.1rc1 Message-ID: <20111129225808.GA19818@gonzales> References: <20111126112901.GA27177@gonzales> <20111126154114.GC27177@gonzales> <20111126182915.GC15113@gonzales> <20111126214806.GB19833@gonzales> <20111129030444.GA26300@gonzales> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: gasnu User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Tuesday, 2011-11-29 at 18:37 -0300 - Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Martin Bays wrote: > > > > And do you similarly really want {ko'a .e ko'e lo broda cu brode} to not > > be equivalent to {ge ko'a lo broda cu brode gi ko'e lo broda cu brode}, >=20 > I want it equivalent to "ge ko'a ko'i goi lo broda cu brode gi ko'e ko'i = brode". >=20 > The shared elements in bridi joined by ".e" or "gi'e" are not words > but their meanings. >=20 > > in that the value of {lo broda} can be different in the two occurances > > in the latter but must be constant in the former? > > > > That complicates things significantly, you know. >=20 > No more than for "ta" or for "la djan" or most sumti for which you > can't absolutely guarantee that they will end up with the same > referent(s) every time they are used. Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. Martin --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk7VY4AACgkQULC7OLX7LNYo0gCgrgzwxWOJNR92N7daAq+VjS2P Y8gAoOMUJORGwrCPKb198rQMSy0QTGmI =gvHK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi--