Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:33508) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVo5U-0000fZ-Bq; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:37:00 -0800 Received: by mail-iy0-f189.google.com with SMTP id e36sf1249910iag.16 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=tBw8NyAQcqNNe+1ugwZcfAhjpJRGEvzZXG23fD8cEVs=; b=EVSYHSU5oYj6cK5wh5djlIN11GeBXrjrxem3uv+FJAeAfaNUlusgM8CeYFogeEmfts R/nUcnr4LVU7CIQg9NGjn8QK6/STcMzxDXWry8qybOzIYNeBtDl5Kb4gU67oxfKGxKct EMxiPBalE0xFGXOtzKz021XeJBP4GwlApCAMw= Received: by 10.68.17.103 with SMTP id n7mr425653pbd.16.1322674609604; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.12.106 with SMTP id x10ls8139060pbb.3.gmail; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.56.163 with SMTP id b3mr5200291pbq.0.1322674608911; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.56.163 with SMTP id b3mr5200290pbq.0.1322674608900; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j5si3962101pbi.0.2011.11.30.09.36.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVo5P-0000h1-Qk for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:48 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVo5P-0000gu-Eh for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:36:47 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Rant (baby related): dasni, taxfu, and all their friends. Message-ID: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place for "being worn by...". See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , wich seems to list all of them. {taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what that tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a place for the sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not the person that actually *is* wearing it. This means the *only* way to talk about people wearing clothing is with {dasni}. WTF is the point of having place structures if I can't say {mi te pastu}? :P :P :P -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.