Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:63549) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVqGV-00022b-Ai; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:56:32 -0800 Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36sf1606031iag.16 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:56:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-pgp-key :x-pgp-keyid:x-cunselcu'a-valsi:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=/9ctnwOcAacoHvrhk8Dlp7/EGNVAm6osdqLhAXzhgIo=; b=PMFkmXiqr89oJo5P2G5A1jrNTQzsrx0MslHS7TtL0aLbDH4vSz0VZpgY7Uw7iCjys6 eiNcui7ipTi1nfQ848blLjAmcHq9t5OBubWaWZmntqZ/SRyGHn9Jw4GNtZ61zPRuKkjh CFsEepGmBygs+YrAmVaEwceBm3s0M6MTPtsvg= Received: by 10.68.29.129 with SMTP id k1mr6698pbh.1.1322682974462; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:56:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.42.101 with SMTP id n5ls8427148pbl.6.gmail; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.0.170 with SMTP id 10mr52862pbf.2.1322682973696; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.0.170 with SMTP id 10mr52859pbf.2.1322682973680; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x5si4380836pbb.1.2011.11.30.11.56.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.94.73.19; Received: from gonzales.homelinux.org (root@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAUJuCOR027562 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:56:13 GMT Received: from martin by gonzales.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RVqGK-0006nJ-LO for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:56:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:56:12 -0500 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Rant (baby related): dasni, taxfu, and all their friends. Message-ID: <20111130195612.GF2886@gonzales> References: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jkO+KyKz7TfD21mV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: vlagi User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --jkO+KyKz7TfD21mV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Wednesday, 2011-11-30 at 09:36 -0800 - Robin Lee Powell : > AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place for "being worn > by...". See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , wich seems > to list all of them. >=20 > {taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what that > tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a place for the > sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not the person that > actually *is* wearing it. >=20 > This means the *only* way to talk about people wearing clothing is > with {dasni}. >=20 > WTF is the point of having place structures if I can't say {mi te > pastu}? Because then something would pastu only when it was being worn. --jkO+KyKz7TfD21mV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk7WilwACgkQULC7OLX7LNZM9gCfdrpiLns+td8WB7bL6kyeNpdJ i6UAoNuoCZd5GpW6XRbFMj26Mk50wFPf =dnlQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jkO+KyKz7TfD21mV--