Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:35248) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVqRa-0002Aw-M5; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:08:01 -0800 Received: by ywp31 with SMTP id 31sf1162765ywp.16 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=WJh47YTriiC5x2AYlCSb877KVMhNpU22fHefWxje8G8=; b=5QSFkTZZOWFbn4gittxl65DOijDPhfJslXFzKRDcX3SdPNp89xlHUzlQxVKtv52s2j +AW2DKtE4IjXkGeNjMGfa+PvlLI0+pAEkvmjTzjF4y1rQ8Qu4r5yeWWngZtN5XGVduZn P9sAeyZgh/1xI/0/jG1YRz4nqeS3Z+VsCHHAA= Received: by 10.236.131.110 with SMTP id l74mr1966158yhi.19.1322683661564; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:41 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.76.9 with SMTP id d9ls9046178ybl.3.gmail; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.168.70 with SMTP id j46mr6616341yhl.2.1322683660364; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.168.70 with SMTP id j46mr6616339yhl.2.1322683660344; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f43.google.com (mail-yw0-f43.google.com [209.85.213.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v44si1083086yhd.1.2011.11.30.12.07.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.43; Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so1898927ywt.30 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.161.103 with SMTP id v67mr6358469yhk.87.1322683660099; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.14.2 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:07:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111130195612.GF2886@gonzales> References: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111130195612.GF2886@gonzales> From: Luke Bergen Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:07:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Rant (baby related): dasni, taxfu, and all their friends. To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3040ee1cb5e20e04b2f94904 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf3040ee1cb5e20e04b2f94904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's not necessarily true. It's possible to {broda zi'o}. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > * Wednesday, 2011-11-30 at 09:36 -0800 - Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>: > > > AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place for "being worn > > by...". See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , wich seems > > to list all of them. > > > > {taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what that > > tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a place for the > > sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not the person that > > actually *is* wearing it. > > > > This means the *only* way to talk about people wearing clothing is > > with {dasni}. > > > > WTF is the point of having place structures if I can't say {mi te > > pastu}? > > Because then something would pastu only when it was being worn. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf3040ee1cb5e20e04b2f94904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's not necessarily true. =A0It's possible to {broda zi'o}.<= br>
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Martin B= ays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:
* Wednesday, 2011-11-30 at 09:36 -0800 - Ro= bin Lee Powell <rlpowell@= digitalkingdom.org>:

> AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place for "being worn=
> by...". =A0See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , wich = seems
> to list all of them.
>
> {taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what = that
> tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a place for t= he
> sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not the person that
> actually *is* wearing it.
>
> This means the *only* way to talk about people wearing clothing is
> with {dasni}.
>
> WTF is the point of having place structures if I can't say {mi te<= br> > pastu}?

Because then something would pastu only when it was being worn.

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