Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:50598) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVrO7-0002f4-IV; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:27 -0800 Received: by bkbzt19 with SMTP id zt19sf968188bkb.16 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IawBssedjmtZ/C1t+JoxfL3j8YnvSTtsznB9xSQVCN8=; b=xX5cd66KuxpZO4ZEhMoAS04OWyJlxzwg88pQbZIHQ7GU+iqdyFAZtBYxNoRSxlvS7/ udHzt839CU70MfBj+ZORz54dvdTcn2krRrf/C+p83aVzg6OFkxzlucPmIk3r2/s8oknf haLT5eeTJf/2U+kJ2lkzIOJm/ZnzJLCjtH+zQ= Received: by 10.205.138.133 with SMTP id is5mr464688bkc.29.1322687289450; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.207 with SMTP id u15ls12367165bks.0.gmail; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.136.195 with SMTP id s3mr119296bkt.5.1322687288095; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.136.195 with SMTP id s3mr119295bkt.5.1322687288075; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f52.google.com (mail-bw0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y22si2470683bkf.3.2011.11.30.13.08.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.52; Received: by mail-bw0-f52.google.com with SMTP id zv3so2170196bkb.39 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.77 with SMTP id o13mr4384222bko.12.1322687287120; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.224.11 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:08:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111130202431.GV15498@nvg.org> References: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111130202431.GV15498@nvg.org> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:08:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Rant (baby related): dasni, taxfu, and all their friends. From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517479032e5d40304b2fa2153 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001517479032e5d40304b2fa2153 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 09:36:47AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place for "being worn > > by...". See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , wich seems > > to list all of them. > > > > {taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what that > > tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a place for the > > sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not the person that > > actually *is* wearing it. > > So I checked the place structure of dasni, and, hmm. > > # x1 wears/is robed/garbed in x2 as a garment of type x3. > > Would this mean that {mi dasni lo cutci lo mapku} means =93I'm wearing a > shoe on my head=94? Maybe not. > Yes, it would. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001517479032e5d40304b2fa2153 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Arnt Richard Jo= hansen <arj@nvg.org= > wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 09:36:47AM -0800, Robin Lee Powel= l wrote:
>
> AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place = for "being worn
> by...". =A0See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vl= asisku/taxfu , wich seems
> to list all of them.
>
> {taxfu} has such a place, but it&= #39;s ... umm, I'm not sure what that
> tense is called; intentio= nal or something?, but it's a place for the
> sort of person that= *could* wear the thing, not the person that
> actually *is* wearing it.

So I checked the place structur= e of dasni, and, hmm.

# x1 wears/is robed/garbed in x2 as a garment = of type x3.

Would this mean that {mi dasni lo cutci lo mapku} means = =93I'm wearing a shoe on my head=94? Maybe not.
=A0 Yes, it would.
=A0

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