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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:53:25 -0700
From: ".alyn.post." <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org>
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I give your playing the perfection game a 1.  I like that you
followed the steps of the game.  To make it a ten, you would
have to also follow the commitments, which is a contract between
the perfector and the perfectee:

 * Accept perfecting without argument.
 * Give only positive comments: what you like and what it would
   take to "give it a 10."
 * Abstain from mentioning what you don't like or being negative in
   other ways.
 * Withhold points only if you can think of improvements.
 * Use ratings that reflect a scale of improvement rather than a
   scale of how much you liked the object.
 * If you cannot say something you liked about the object or
   specifically say how to make the object better, you must give it
   a 10.

Below, when you say "I do not believe they can be improved," it
means you have scored the object a 10.

Will you play the pefection game again?

-Alan

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 07:30:26PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>    Following the steps:
>    1. Look at each of the three proposed designs:
>    [1]https://docs.google.com/open?id=1Q2I6bMdDFfRmyNlG2iBvfoNp7WCSf0MpvQsxMyLfgbbBDuv2ZKgJCjUlkw7C
>    [2]https://docs.google.com/open?id=1sQSlCGnhjrZHfSUWdV6_WbZzlrzjveP1j4dOf2OrLOxCACtjQaoAk3is_5FY
>    2. Offer a rating between 1 and 10 based on how much you believe you can
>    improve them: I do not belive they can be "improved".
>    3. List the qualities you like about them: Nothing.
>    4. Offer suggestions on what should be done to improve them: Scrap them,
>    and start over with something that doesn't look like a three-eyed smiley
>    face.
> 
>    On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:49 PM, .alyn.post.
>    <[3]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
> 
>      I offer this with the hope that it improves the result/effort ratio
>      of this conversation:
> 
>      *[4]http://c0redump.org/core_protocol/perfection_game/
> 
>      The basic idea is to use objective criteria in providing feedback.
> 
>      -Alan
>      On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 02:13:09PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>      > * *Yes.
>      >
>      > * *It's three eyes. And it's ugly.
>      >
>      > * *Bridi man FTW!
>      >
>      > * *On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:44 PM, M. Nael
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>      > * *wrote:
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>      > * * *Apart from all of what I meant, I think the middle implies more
>      of a
>      > * * *nose, not a third eye... Have ye looked at the three*files?
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