Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:59376) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVy6o-0005UL-EM; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:19:02 -0800 Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14sf174596dad.16 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :sender:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bls6x06/zcQjAN3p07QwF7fUFb6thB9swATEVeoB39s=; b=BCPrja3ISh+p87R6DCQCjQ/8bAN0vG0x/M6rMval4acq47VQk6crT+p5RA2yZCyIpI ibqYvgGKWBWeNApUB4Kj1U1YwLgGUZr8eMGSdmbHkI0Qk0L+RHVkmYwRNO6LDUuVFc9N PtyabNFkf0FjihKqqZ1pwi+bca2C+K91GD05U= Received: by 10.68.50.41 with SMTP id z9mr23087pbn.12.1322713126146; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:46 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.12.106 with SMTP id x10ls9539126pbb.3.gmail; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.15.105 with SMTP id w9mr855277pbc.7.1322713124643; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.15.105 with SMTP id w9mr855275pbc.7.1322713124636; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j5si5793120pbi.0.2011.11.30.20.18.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVy6d-0005UI-Gr for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:18:43 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Rant (baby related): dasni, taxfu, and all their friends. Message-ID: <20111201041843.GA8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111130202431.GV15498@nvg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 04:08:07PM -0500, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen > wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 09:36:47AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell > > wrote: > > > > > > AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place for "being > > > worn by...". See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , > > > wich seems to list all of them. > > > > > > {taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what > > > that tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a > > > place for the sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not > > > the person that actually *is* wearing it. > > > > So I checked the place structure of dasni, and, hmm. > > > > # x1 wears/is robed/garbed in x2 as a garment of type x3. > > > > Would this mean that {mi dasni lo cutci lo mapku} means =93I'm > > wearing a shoe on my head=94? Maybe not. > > > Yes, it would. Agreed. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.