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* Wednesday, 2011-11-30 at 20:16 -0800 - Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digital=
kingdom.org>:

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 02:56:12PM -0500, Martin Bays wrote:
> > * Wednesday, 2011-11-30 at 09:36 -0800 - Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@dig=
italkingdom.org>:
> >=20
> > > This means the *only* way to talk about people wearing clothing is
> > > with {dasni}.
> > >=20
> > > WTF is the point of having place structures if I can't say {mi te
> > > pastu}?
> >=20
> > Because then something would pastu only when it was being worn.
>=20
> And botpi must contain something, as must kabri.

The difference is that always do contain something, even if only air or
empty space, but being worn isn't intrinsic to the physical form of
a pastu.

(There's also the question of whether the x2 of botpi ("for x2") is
actually meant to imply vasru, or whether it should be taken to be
analagous to taxfu's x2)

> I'm not seeing the problem.

I suppose that depends on whether you're willing e.g. to accept
{lo ka'e broda} as a likely interpretation of {lo broda}?

Martin

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