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On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:24:23AM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> >
> >
> > If it was up to me, I'd define certain places as being
> > ka'e-able: that is, "this place is normally filled by X [where
> > in the case of botpi X would be "what the bottle currently
> > contains"], but even if there is no current or obvious X, the
> > capability is sufficient for the semantics of this word; zi'o
> > should only be used if the capability has been lost".
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> >
> I don't know if I agree with that.  I think a {broda zi'o} isn't
> necessarily a {broda} that cannot have an x2 but rather a {broda}
> that in this instance does not have an x2.  

The CLL strongly disagrees with you; {broda zi'o} is considered a
different selbri from {broda}; see http://dag.github.com/cll/7/7/.
You're thinking of {broda no da}.

> i.e. there's no reason that {ko'a simlu lo ka barda zi'o} COULDN'T
> have an observer, only that in this instance it does not.  Or...
> maybe that's the chief difference between noda and zi'o? 

Oh, sorry, didn't read far enough.  :)

-Robin

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