Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:47811) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RWElv-0000OA-F3; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:28 -0800 Received: by bkbzt19 with SMTP id zt19sf2290187bkb.16 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AIwEEosUxUKkxCUOK/eKKorvhNKw6dmv1YphI+RMeB0=; b=224dp7kDbBECuHIA0Ua3CZHXMzhR4otdY5zZBY4nwuPfqPQ78rA/uDRv/I4SKWSZgR 0H388OoOg1cROs7Y8J1XNSOzHff+yog0HuM9hp+vlpmNi2+Bv0jgkrKfk2cZfda+5mhS Z6NvJZG+grC/dpOlURHpMtDfBy25v4rOLFQ08= Received: by 10.204.153.6 with SMTP id i6mr1019177bkw.27.1322777177561; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.200.144 with SMTP id ew16ls22132906bkb.2.gmail; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.133.193 with SMTP id hz1mr1617385bkc.7.1322777176755; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.133.193 with SMTP id hz1mr1617384bkc.7.1322777176740; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f49.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w8si5297895bkd.0.2011.12.01.14.06.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.49; Received: by lagu2 with SMTP id u2so1379442lag.22 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.198 with SMTP id gg6mr1595028lab.23.1322777176351; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111130172022.GK8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111201005555.GS8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111201043009.GC8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 19:06:16 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: "would you like some more milk?" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / 2011/12/1 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis : > > I agree that {ve zmadu} is appropriate, but I don't think that {loka > ce'u klani makau} > is the right zmadu3 here. Wouldn't it make zmadu4 a se klani, instead > of a ladru? I think the x4 of zmadu should probably be like the x1 and x2, something with property x3. > (compare with "I am 10cm shorter than my mother") mi no'u lo centre be li 165 cu mleca lo mi mamta no'u lo centre be li 175 lo ka ce'u klani ma kau lo centre kei lo centre be li 10 I, a 165 cm thing, am less than my mother, a 175 cm thing, in how much we amount to in cm, by a margin of 10 cm. > I believe it makes more sense to have an identity zmadu3 ({loka makau > me ce'u}?), > with the implied relation being simply of superset (or a similar > mereological relation > with difference). Can you show how the whole thing would look like? mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.