Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:42193)
	by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
	(Exim 4.76)
	(envelope-from <lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRD--t_2BBoE2DG2Nw@googlegroups.com>)
	id 1RWEyu-0000Rs-Ef; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:55 -0800
Received: by bkbzt19 with SMTP id zt19sf2297902bkb.16
        for <multiple recipients>; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:44 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
        h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date
         :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender
         :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list
         :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender
         :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type
         :content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=LjizIAvF133sopYW6D6pDdnT1zDlfU6A1zkwiMBy134=;
        b=K5TwVVmNCf5ikSayXS8euNgHUdMqKX8qxCjaD/BraDv4kZfRMMJBL7aqUPTnIWTeWz
         Sj3/V7f165RGrefM+oAp6eD5/AOeIaXIUXbW0Kf+hxcy6F3M/RKNkCVU4HR8vsd77AHY
         xoO02qm+jrRqUHMxHhE2YHAUMsQ3Q0p31SbTo=
Received: by 10.204.130.208 with SMTP id u16mr497482bks.29.1322777982515;
        Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:42 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.204.152.154 with SMTP id g26ls18563712bkw.3.gmail; Thu, 01 Dec
 2011 14:19:41 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.205.127.148 with SMTP id ha20mr1624284bkc.6.1322777981509;
        Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:41 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.205.127.148 with SMTP id ha20mr1624283bkc.6.1322777981491;
        Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:41 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c11si482435bke.3.2011.12.01.14.19.41
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:41 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.41;
Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com with SMTP id i5so1014646lah.28
        for <lojban@googlegroups.com>; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:41 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.152.104.198 with SMTP id gg6mr1618338lab.23.1322777981283;
 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:19:41 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:19:41 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <20111201220549.GA643@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
References: <20111130172022.GK8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
	<201111301513.20713.phma@phma.optus.nu>
	<20111201042819.GB8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
	<CAO7tK2crcWZVc488nGVJc_VY5aGfSaLPF1fV0M5cFa5FLK46iQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20111201220549.GA643@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 19:19:41 -0300
Message-ID: <CAO7tK2dAo3Xfi5_YPYs5Y1CQwHcDxxgkSsf5nFafS2TZ-KQr+A@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: "would you like some more milk?"
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org
X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com:
 domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <lojban.googlegroups.com>
X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417
List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en_US>
Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com
List-Subscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-Spam_score: -0.7
X-Spam_score_int: -6
X-Spam_bar: /

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>
> I have, For Some Time Now (tm) wanted a "more than the current
> value" and "less than the current value" PA (or, more usefully, a
> "current value" PA). =A0This is just another reason.

Suppose "va'ai" is the current value. How would that work?

If I say "xu do djica pi va'ai ladru", does that mean "would you like
the current amount of milk?" Would that be the amount she already had,
and I'm asking whether she would like a second amount like it? Or is
it asking whether she is satisfied with what she has had?

Would "za'u va'ai" mean an amount larger than the current one, such
that she would end up having the current amount plus this second,
larger amount on top of it, or would "za'u va'ai" be just any
additional amount on top of the current one (but how would that fit
with the normal meaning of "za'u"?)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

--=20
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "=
lojban" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou=
ps.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban=
?hl=3Den.