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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u7si9144202pbn.2.2011.12.01.14.31.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RWFAL-0000Y2-Ki for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:31:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:31:41 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: "would you like some more milk?" Message-ID: <20111201223141.GC643@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111130172022.GK8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111301513.20713.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20111201042819.GB8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111201220549.GA643@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 07:19:41PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > > > I have, For Some Time Now (tm) wanted a "more than the current > > value" and "less than the current value" PA (or, more usefully, > > a "current value" PA). =A0This is just another reason. >=20 > Suppose "va'ai" is the current value. How would that work? >=20 > If I say "xu do djica pi va'ai ladru", does that mean "would you > like the current amount of milk?" Would that be the amount she > already had, and I'm asking whether she would like a second amount > like it? Or is it asking whether she is satisfied with what she > has had? I would say the latter. > Would "za'u va'ai" mean an amount larger than the current one, > such that she would end up having the current amount plus this > second, larger amount on top of it, or would "za'u va'ai" be just > any additional amount on top of the current one (but how would > that fit with the normal meaning of "za'u"?) Hmmm... Damn you and your logic. :P You're right, you can't really do that with quantifiers, because you're quantifying the amount of stuff, not whether that amount of stuff is new or not. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.