Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:64277) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RWKzu-0002vt-3B; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:19 -0800 Received: by yenm12 with SMTP id m12sf2530294yen.16 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RfyAMatFaag8cAmfaw4gQfZCfFHxJFwP/3UUa3WApU8=; b=en+UF3FpT8B4T79KvEwiF5cZXinwsmtpV3Z2Fpw/6XTi38RTXnrmwLvII3Ej9LftFK Fua78ri02BwlEHGnooEcQVWc1NG9QyvwVSqx0h9vtGLXGgJVVPfGXWfQnSsffjpCRBZU /MlitUP42rQCtnC50V3EWzm2t0UuBpbHhCkOU= Received: by 10.236.157.169 with SMTP id o29mr51937yhk.20.1322801108916; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.245.19 with SMTP id s19ls1903650ybh.5.gmail; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.185.22 with SMTP id m22mr2720066anp.32.1322801108101; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.185.22 with SMTP id m22mr2720064anp.32.1322801108082; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f171.google.com (mail-gy0-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f15si2132672anq.1.2011.12.01.20.45.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.171; Received: by ghrr15 with SMTP id r15so4504940ghr.30 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.202.39 with SMTP id e39mr2432823anq.20.1322801107956; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.114.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 20:45:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111130172022.GK8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111201005555.GS8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111201043009.GC8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 01:45:07 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: "would you like some more milk?" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / 2011/12/1 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > 2011/12/1 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis : >> >> I agree that {ve zmadu} is appropriate, but I don't think that {loka >> ce'u klani makau} >> is the right zmadu3 here. Wouldn't it make zmadu4 a se klani, instead >> of a ladru? > > I think the x4 of zmadu should probably be like the x1 and x2, > something with property x3. > I agree. So, if x3 is mu'a the quantity of millilitres or centimetres, then= x4 would also be something that can be quantified in millilitres or centimetre= s. What I don't think is that x4 would also be a white drink or a person. >> (compare with "I am 10cm shorter than my mother") > > mi no'u lo centre be li 165 cu mleca lo mi mamta no'u lo centre be li > 175 lo ka ce'u klani ma kau lo centre kei lo centre be li 10 > I, a 165 cm thing, am less than my mother, a 175 cm thing, in how much > we amount to in cm, by a margin of 10 cm. > >> I believe it makes more sense to have an identity zmadu3 ({loka makau >> me ce'u}?), >> with the implied relation being simply of superset (or a similar >> mereological relation >> with difference). > > Can you show how the whole thing would look like? > {xu do djica (lo nu pinxe) lo ve zmadu be lo ladru (poi do pu pinxe bei lo ka ma kau noi ladru cu me ce'u)} mu'o mi'e .asiz. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.