Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:61819) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RWp7O-0006T6-Bs; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:55:10 -0800 Received: by ywp31 with SMTP id 31sf4232532ywp.16 for ; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:54:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-yahoo-newman-property:x-yahoo-newman-id :x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references:message-id:date:from:subject:to :in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=57X84ZU7W0rCIQlJVpQYuZzmH6p1JjLr2dF5Y9Gv+pI=; b=NEQxBCcTvmQ1D5LqvqJX4m7ripsvkyPc+iAzSd07i1Vbm4d0kc6cVxSDsJKchXByYo uqb2Dw0X7y7GW/YkVAF5JfcnJRrnGiPzzbmycFOcAmFjWMm5euPAixkzrnRtUu5++cId 3OxDErDI+R52SYiEGtiW0pFR87II7pdBG5sBU= Received: by 10.236.176.103 with SMTP id a67mr6817161yhm.7.1322916892155; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:54:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.35.36 with SMTP id i36ls5659354ybi.6.gmail; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.185.22 with SMTP id m22mr4169109anp.32.1322916891270; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.185.22 with SMTP id m22mr4169108anp.32.1322916891241; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nm21-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com. [66.94.236.31]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id v44si4551397yhd.1.2011.12.03.04.54.51; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.31 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.236.31; Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2011 12:54:50 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.108] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2011 12:54:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2011 12:54:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 949770.10450.bm@omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83203 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2011 12:54:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cUAdyv4VM1la_MvalP0DCkG.FyNGKcVJn6UjBSfa.ZkHEAd FCSGP.tFpYB.QUlln3PWW6lAUgj1PLDX7hCtfxfxTJccsqDdI4.pwPknK6OJ pAU.Oicq8sSCwShyCanlbPjbBOIePhaf796yH0fTPfN.BA2ODXUauiwiylhz KkNbJF4vFVtkYGdMge7aKXqpiA3KxcMaYtEN8SfT7fY7TnPlO98jKth1rhmJ nckjUt9jTZfqPHWiAaWBd8EEYI01J7.3vsEQzdy_tJ7Xt2h8Ol9TmK40UFDt gZNGLM6tMST_QiAB2uYiWl54pjzAYNVht_IF89vr4w_bmOS7DB6g2oT_pbp7 68LjhMl_0SftBX08Nrr.k9zVoZRtSEqsl5TAZxKI4hRaR33tYh71W1LMJfd2 HYnkPA1cCQpp.x8Rw2d8Di45OJiPKr7FGMa0seiLTRouNjncWykR34fp67az kzhgGVd6_32L.C5dWsDJUFn4fl7J34aqzidIgeCqNr1zS2ovZAFe0YVn3.sa spuwInm23nhjQNpNY6Gz6Br_cXTZ0ai3IuAIfEV7F Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:54:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/589 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: Message-ID: <1322916890.49486.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:54:50 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] restrictiveness: subordinate bridi (clause) vs main bridi To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.31 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / You've written it as for {noi}, that is, two independent sentences being ja= mmed=20 together. For {poi} you need to make the {blabi} sentence a part of the=20 description of the dog(s) -- or, rather the {cadzu} one, as you have it her= e. =20 It is hard to give a restrictive relative clause in separate senence form. ----- Original Message ---- From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 4:21:49 AM Subject: [lojban] restrictiveness: subordinate bridi (clause) vs main bridi =BFWhich NOI would you use to combine this couple of bridi lo gerku cu blabi .i ri cadzu , such that a) lo gerku noi blabi cu cadzu or b) lo gerku poi blabi cu cadzu In other words: What would be the default implicit restrictiveness of the main bridi, if any? mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at=20 http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.