Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:57919) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RWr96-0008FE-SB; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:05:01 -0800 Received: by bkcje16 with SMTP id je16sf420739bkc.16 for ; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zNotJ+DdxKXncKMBJD226MIFvk2rFud95JeH7OhE9eg=; b=fBbzl3qYdEzUsYVOXPe3j/fJ8e3cWdVJX6Q3CX82pXZb1ACip151ZuqIfpPXWKOJCv f521EzBJ/3ryjcaHgBcmtPpAXbM/Dt7Rt+uUc4JMt2tMUnf+w3AxoxTEE2MBzs8uuSb1 P5WvYhMR1uVwtBxZNsdS/Dtzp6jO5mPFfDLXM= Received: by 10.204.151.132 with SMTP id c4mr2037364bkw.25.1322924685201; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.207 with SMTP id u15ls1839436bks.0.gmail; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.133 with SMTP id c5mr2100598bkw.8.1322924684071; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.133 with SMTP id c5mr2100597bkw.8.1322924684058; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f52.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j1si8146705bky.2.2011.12.03.07.04.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.52; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f52.google.com with SMTP id h2so2247285laa.11 for ; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.10 with SMTP id im10mr1573852lab.2.1322924683889; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 07:04:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111203002052.GA16395@gonzales> References: <20111203000124.GE11472@gonzales> <20111203002052.GA16395@gonzales> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:04:43 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] some critics admire only one another From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > > Oops, I was working with the wrong meaning. It's meant to be: > there's a set of critics such that no critic in the set admires > themself or anything outside of the set. But you also need that each of them admires every other critic in the set, right? su'oi da poi xaurpai zo'u ro de poi me da cu sinma ro di poi me da .e nai de ku'o .e no di poi na me da I guess Lojban lacks a pair of reciprocal pronouns like "one another" in English. It would be interesting to see if it's possible to rigorously define a pronoun such that "su'oi xaurpai cu sinma ri'ai po'o" means that. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.