Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:42135) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RXBZi-0005rB-OG; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:48 -0800 Received: by ywp31 with SMTP id 31sf5418313ywp.16 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ka4FRyZ6FQAaZSeYfGaQ/2mK5pND5ZyObJrR78N7fNY=; b=vXTMksr9sBm/djzF30W53nDbUv7UOEH35nyOFLLAGlgyGqfqlvuU93dN3GM5oBtC4E UxNAMlN6KZuTGVARMEG+mzC6pM8UbP3fOCGfsvYtZDvsukUmpSPMLIaqc729m4dOtsEc r59soea03dUR/bBW4shQGQ6AW/cA+y8cxD2qk= Received: by 10.236.183.229 with SMTP id q65mr7789401yhm.18.1323003217332; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.134.16 with SMTP id h16ls1960459and.4.gmail; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.187.7 with SMTP id x7mr32050381yhm.7.1323003216718; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.187.7 with SMTP id x7mr32050380yhm.7.1323003216702; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f178.google.com (mail-gx0-f178.google.com [209.85.161.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c18si889476ybe.0.2011.12.04.04.53.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.178; Received: by mail-gx0-f178.google.com with SMTP id k4so4364010ggn.9 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.154.66 with SMTP id vm2mr1017188obb.52.1323003216602; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:53:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.109.9 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 04:53:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1322938212.67083.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20111203000124.GE11472@gonzales> <20111203002052.GA16395@gonzales> <1322925914.50485.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1322933587.36710.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1322938212.67083.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:53:36 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] some critics admire only one another From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 3 December 2011 18:50, John E Clifford wrote: > I think we have this discussion before, and I never can remember what (if > anything) was decided. =A0In strict logic-text fashion, "I admire only yo= u" =A0does > not entail "I admire you" but it does seem pragmatically odd. Would you say that the distinction between the strict and usual fashions (entailing and not entailing "you") is relevant to the difference between {no na'ebo do} and {do po'o}? mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.