Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:36268) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RXrRS-00060R-SM; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:36:07 -0800 Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3sf7067519ggn.16 for ; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4t/d11XUYlyMSQkazS1FI2H2e21jP1v0eqM+mhjziq4=; b=xagVlQoNfAuTH0DEzLFaOQvTUQU5SvmrZp98GniziJ5mByS+cOdAy6SQ9VG8+Gp0a8 L+EPegLujj4FIEhIMonbodYoETwuTusOTYiUwU50kTPixock0Ow/9h1PCJTspGXFGiKU W0G/o1+JaJOu19VjBP/DSsf8o3UiaC7zHPtco= Received: by 10.236.176.103 with SMTP id a67mr10496264yhm.7.1323164153698; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.43.22 with SMTP id q22ls11931541ybq.7.gmail; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.226.16 with SMTP id y16mr7789071ang.12.1323164152911; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.226.16 with SMTP id y16mr7789069ang.12.1323164152895; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f171.google.com (mail-gx0-f171.google.com [209.85.161.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n75si7816483yhe.3.2011.12.06.01.35.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.171; Received: by mail-gx0-f171.google.com with SMTP id r4so37149665ggn.30 for ; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.218.100 with SMTP id pf4mr2566372obc.12.1323164152786; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.54.80 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:35:52 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] state of {binxo} From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / 2011/12/5 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis : > coi > > Is there a consensus about the nature of binxo2? I mostly see > non-properties there, but I am not sure how to interpret that. > > I noticed that there was some discussions on the subject long ago, > but I didn't find any conclusion in favour of the object-object version > of {binxo}. coi .asiz. It's clear at least to me that binxo1 and binxo2 are not attributive properties and are related in terms of cenba2. binxo1 corresponds to cenba1. While {cenba} expresses a change of the x1 in some property and makes no reference to the resulting entity, {binxo} does say what the x1 transforms into but without specifying the properties in which the change occurs. {binxo} is also comparable to {galfi}. binxo1 & binxo2 correspond to galfi2 & galfi3: ri'a lo nu lenku kei lo djacu cu binxo lo bisli lo nu lenku cu galfi lo djau lo bisli mu'o mi'e .tijlan. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.