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[66.94.236.137]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id v43si581561yhm.5.2011.12.07.07.29.42; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.137 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.236.137; Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2011 15:29:42 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.107] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2011 15:29:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2011 15:29:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 88790.37606.bm@omp1012.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 36889 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Dec 2011 15:29:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ah14CFkVM1nHGwkB__uogsPSNbHe0xzzuRqwzI4rqdZ8438 DGGcCoTNpa85tTPOZPQJ49S1LxY5ZkBuRrhg8KByzAP6XNAjQhHBTtPY2T6_ 4txL4vddjrIjaKTBYH5CPrSXF.4cHG_03X1w0rJhO5U6bgE_LMkkC1i5mMIb Rck8QnCGz7SEMT6Bg6p2pA4mvCPKpL1IVtD_WHBHzLVnlYb5mSC6vbpLoiW5 v_RQZAPdu.IRQ672Mjvljd3mLQTYgQPwIJQqclizCyeTPhG283NV5Se8U_Ie vUJHcOsKp3r07Vp2PHR57VvvJQXohWrfhrickDuMMMflzInuDIOF.te2fK6Q bzoJ5hqgnc3yLr8MFoXAk3089Nr3.iJQ6qgAIkA.qsTslmfTaBt3daSNuul_ DFUyuE9UyIrs13u70huIbbogtoKjNUWM6Nfhw_5gXO9kXo.UmVOLTjH2xnt6 XgXVwtEayHROkg77C5TfGabGa3HSGEvA1.Hnr.EgIU9hafJK6Fra39Bhn8GP RPIxlYk4h0jP3PTHriIXeVEur7xfQxQkiYZ25bujRYhtPGS5aAKtWWvTXKg- - Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:29:41 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/589 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: <20111201021703.GL2886@gonzales> <20111203175028.GC12482@gonzales> <20111203204015.GA11790@gonzales> <20111203233303.GB11790@gonzales> <20111204014942.GC11790@gonzales> <20111204172803.GA3091@gonzales> <1323097700.59133.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1323271781.23349.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:29:41 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] semantic parser - tersmu-0.1rc1 To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.137 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / To sum up one part of this discussion, if there is a variable (with or with= out a=20 quantifier) in a compound predication, it can only come from an underlying= =20 compound sentence of the form Qx(Fx X Gx) or something equivalent to that, = which=20 turns out to be just AxFx & AxGx) and ExFx v ExGx. Other quantifiers canno= t be=20 collapsed at all. Now, as to how situation is represented in Lojban, the o= nly=20 problem case is a plain {da} with a disjunctive predication. But since thi= s is=20 equivalent to the (relatively) prenex form, the rule to use that prenex for= all=20 cases holds. =20 ----- Original Message ---- From: Jorge Llamb=EDas To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, December 5, 2011 3:37:54 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] semantic parser - tersmu-0.1rc1 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:08 PM, John E Clifford wro= te: > In the final analysis, variants of ijeks. ijeks plus tu'e-tu'u, or alternatively just geks. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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