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 Content preview:  * Monday, 2011-12-05 at 13:15 -0300 - Felipe Gonçalves Assis
    <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>: > Is there a consensus about the nature of binxo2?
    I mostly see > non-properties there, but I am not sure how to interpret that.
    > > I noticed that there was some discussions on the subject long ago, >
   but I didn't find any conclusion in favour of the object-object version >
   of {binxo}. [...] 
 
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* Monday, 2011-12-05 at 13:15 -0300 - Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg.ass=
is@gmail.com>:

> Is there a consensus about the nature of binxo2? I mostly see
> non-properties there, but I am not sure how to interpret that.
>=20
> I noticed that there was some discussions on the subject long ago,
> but I didn't find any conclusion in favour of the object-object version
> of {binxo}.

I don't know what sense object-object binxo might make. But for the
meaning "x1 starts to have property x2", we can be more explicit by
using {kaicfa}. This also gets rid of the pesky "under conditions x3"
place of {binxo}.


The Lynchian Mentat mantra, as an example:

mi zu'e po'o tolcadgau le mi menli i
ri'a tu'a le jisra be la safus le pensi kantu cu kaicfa le ka sutra i
le ctebi cu kaicfa le ka se barna i
le barna cu kaicfa le ka kajde i
mi zu'e po'o tolcadgau le mi menli



(original:
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed,
the lips acquire stains,
the stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
)

Martin

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