Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:38067) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RZ0xV-0008NJ-IU; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:58:01 -0800 Received: by qcse15 with SMTP id e15sf3258866qcs.16 for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:57:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=fptWsUsWS0p7xIbVZBKPCxQ1sSYI//nRXIAq6ZsiuMM=; b=opKGdkROa0UqzeAsFDSVoCr0JGLPRQjFWyZRXbRu8kyvpFLDXzCDmsjr+QSO/h2NJf gnSYKplOnVEkfzRbTin+apwrMeGlJ1Fm2MuQYLOQ4GN8UYNsofXnFQpwIr1HkW5pUPWt 8+QqzhVIl60YjLXSbVXl7yC79HM07aoSeqyok= Received: by 10.229.229.15 with SMTP id jg15mr128035qcb.5.1323439063889; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:57:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.209.134 with SMTP id gg6ls9002798qab.2.gmail; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.116.69 with SMTP id l5mr11601353qaq.7.1323439063064; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.116.69 with SMTP id l5mr11601349qaq.7.1323439063046; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie (cpe-075-176-118-168.carolina.res.rr.com. [75.176.118.168]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si7920491qcq.0.2011.12.09.05.57.42; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:57:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.176.118.168 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.176.118.168; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0432161B for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:57:37 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] defining words in Lojban Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:57:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201112071659.58154.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201112090857.29598.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.176.118.168 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Friday 09 December 2011 07:40:50 Michael Turniansky wrote: > I guess the first question we need to ask is "should lojban even have > words that have more than one scope?" Assuming the answer is yes, then > since the structure is the same regardless of the exact definition, I would > just put it once, and then the three definitions. Incidentally, thatnks > for teaching me about "Crown groups". I had never heard of that before. So how would you word the definition? > (But then, back when I learned biology there were only two groups of > animals: "Things you can eat" and "Things that will eat you".) That dichotomy is easily disproved: the piranha is in both categories, and brachiopods are in neither. And of course, the human cannot be in only one category. Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.