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Yes, either the {lo} should be on the other side of the {mu}  or omitted=20
altogether.



----- Original Message ----
From: Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 10, 2011 2:14:13 AM
Subject: [lojban] Update on gadri Proposal

Now that the formal definition of {PA broda} has been updated in the
gadri Proposal, there are other parts of it that need to be adjusted.
The first paragraph, defining {lo}, still says
"
When an outer quantifier is used without an inner quantifier, lo can be omi=
tted.
"

I think this should be replaced by an exemplified explanation of the differ=
ences
between {PA broda} and {PA lo broda}.

Maybe some of the examples should be reviewed as well.
I find the parenthesised {lo} in the following particularly misleading.
"
o'i mu (lo) xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi
Caution! There are five hungry Soviet cows in the garden.
"

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

2011/12/9 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Another side-issue (which I maybe shouldn't mention but will anyway) is
>> what {PA plise} abbreviates. Is it short for {PA da poi plise} where
>> {da} isn't already bound - which saves at least two syllables and saves
>> us having to bind a new da? Or is it short for {PA lo plise} - which
>> just saves one syllable? The usage here, lojbanic history and the
>> demands of efficiency all point towards the former, but the gadri
>> proposal currently states the latter.
>>
>> If that change is to be reverted, I think it would be best to do it
>> sooner rather than later.
>
> Done.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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