Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:47300) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Raq8G-0005l2-SI; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:50 -0800 Received: by yenm3 with SMTP id m3sf1002786yen.16 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tXZNWfYcMIUbj0ZFFGLJQU/6X2wW3cpep0KizOVmiSE=; b=5aLH8fUclNH0dTlolQlR2rbENUTuZesu/JwbXLvUVgH4GxQ11aghq8l2omMtEd/CG2 N8UOA/wXfv9D9znHf9PdF7SHcY3bngiBpBqWP+1dengfUVGF2lXaxshnmmG9l1/PNatF gUjoXr6mOBO21PzxDjQQH1Rm6lfm4ddZWQjzw= Received: by 10.236.183.229 with SMTP id q65mr3383340yhm.18.1323874102369; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.134.16 with SMTP id h16ls5254878and.4.gmail; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.123.11 with SMTP id u11mr16319355yhh.3.1323874101776; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.123.11 with SMTP id u11mr16319349yhh.3.1323874101761; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f43.google.com (mail-yw0-f43.google.com [209.85.213.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e44si803271yhk.0.2011.12.14.06.48.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.43; Received: by mail-yw0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 49so1741110yhr.16 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.155.36 with SMTP id i24mr12524395yhk.43.1323874101588; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.50.103 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:48:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111214023645.GB21878@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111214070345.GD21878@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: Luke Bergen Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:48:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "If", da'i, and mu'ei To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363b978d745504b40e7513 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf30363b978d745504b40e7513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow, those are pretty sweet and fill a need that I've been feeling as well. arpis, the tiki pages have examples and more precise definitions ( http://www.lojban.org/tiki/ba%27oi and http://www.lojban.org/tiki/mu%27ei) but I'll paste some here for convenience: *ro mu'ei lo'edu'u do mi jibni kei mi do darxi* "Were you (ever) to come near me, I would hit you." * **ro ba'oi lo'edu'u do mi jibni kei mi do darxi*"If you come near me, I will hit you." On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:43 AM, .arpis. wrote: > Could you give an example of your {ba'oi} use, when you have a moment? > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 06:36:46PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> > >> > >> > 3. I finally read up on mu'ei ( http://www.lojban.org/tiki/mu'ei ). >> > I like it. I think I'll start using it. >> >> Or, rather, ba'oi; {mu'ei} itself seems confusing for the >> subjunctive needs I have. >> >> -Robin >> >> -- >> http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. >> Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot >> is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" >> is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf30363b978d745504b40e7513 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, those are pretty sweet and fill a need that I've been feeling as w= ell.

arpis, the tiki pages have examples and more precis= e definitions (http://www.lo= jban.org/tiki/ba%27oi and http://www.lojban.org/tiki/mu%27ei) but I'll paste some here for= =A0convenience:
ro mu'ei lo'edu'u do mi jibni kei = mi do darxi
"Were you (ever) to come near me, I = would hit you."

ro ba'oi lo'edu'u do mi jibni kei= mi do darxi
"If you come near me, I will hit you."<= /dd>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:43 AM, .a= rpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
Could you give an example of your {ba'oi= } use, when you have a moment?

<= br>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digi= talkingdom.org> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 06:36:46PM -080= 0, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
>
> 3. =A0I finally read up on mu'ei ( http://www.lojban.org/tiki/mu'ei = ).
> I like it. =A0I think I'll start using it.

Or, rather, ba'oi; {mu'ei} itself seems confusing for the
subjunctive needs I have.

-Robin

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Lojban (http://www.loj= ban.org/): The language in which "this parrot
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is "na nei". =A0 My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/
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