Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:46881) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RaxZ0-0001rt-4t; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:48 -0800 Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3sf1227666pbc.16 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kp5GLec3FqXn37AzAZAHOY3uni/mQJLTJFIhZSZwx9A=; b=gUF/ohTJ70WTx+XBLprkFS5cLpAK+dMLrsQnTqMf808CnCBwPTZizKzgQOcwP3WQmY p0AQzX963nmwO9SbyeTHoS0IBGsGjJQ0hiaZXsydmb28IwQl/DuzSNELZWUkbUwvlPWd X7byEVptoCYpUb2RnWJr4j8+7+l1iNRg9I6qQ= Received: by 10.68.190.196 with SMTP id gs4mr975444pbc.12.1323902668372; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.74.199 with SMTP id w7ls8580978pbv.7.gmail; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.189.194 with SMTP id gk2mr3165955pbc.3.1323902667838; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.189.194 with SMTP id gk2mr3165954pbc.3.1323902667828; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n6si2963893pbg.2.2011.12.14.14.44.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RaxYo-0001ro-Kq for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:26 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:44:26 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "I accept" as a selbri? Message-ID: <20111214224426.GR21878@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111214183256.GG21878@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 07:41:16PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > > > The original was something like "I'm willing to carry you all > > the time, I just can't walk any more". =A0I got stuck on the first > > clause. >=20 > To be willing to do something you just can't do doesn't seem to > take much commitment, does it? I was afraid that confusion would occur. I was still willing to *hold* them, and even hold them standing up, but not to continue walking (they wouldn't stop crying unless I was actually walking). So those are two disparate clauses; pamjai and cadzu. > For "amenable" I use "bredi", but I'm not sure it works when you > are unable to do it. Hmmm. Yeah, {bredi} is pretty good, thanks. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.