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 Content preview:  On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 07:36:32PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
    > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Robin Lee Powell > <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
    wrote: > > I read it as "x1 does x2 every x3". > > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011
    at 12:39:24PM -0800, ianek wrote: > >> x1 is regular/cyclical/periodic in
    property (ka)/activity x2 with > >> period/interval x3. > >> Actor is periodic?
    And there is a suggestion that x2 is a property > >> related to being periodic,
    whatever it means. > > x1 can but need not be an actor, depending on what
    role it plays in property x2: > > mi dikni lo ka ce'u re roi klama lo zarci
    kei lo jeftu be li pa > "I regularly go twice to the market every week."
   > > There the x1 is the actor because "lo ka ce'u re roi klama lo zarci" >
    is an actor's property, but: > > lo zarci cu dikni lo ka mi re roi klama
   ce'u kei lo jeftu be li pa > "The market is regularly gone to twice by me
   every week." > > Now the property is not the property of an actor, so x1 is
    not an actor. > > x1 is something that has property x2 every x3. [...] 
 
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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 07:36:32PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > I read it as "x1 does x2 every x3".
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:39:24PM -0800, ianek wrote:
> >> x1 is regular/cyclical/periodic in property (ka)/activity x2 with
> >> period/interval x3.
> >> Actor is periodic? And there is a suggestion that x2 is a property
> >> related to being periodic, whatever it means.
>=20
> x1 can but need not be an actor, depending on what role it plays in prope=
rty x2:
>=20
> mi dikni lo ka ce'u re roi klama lo zarci kei lo jeftu be li pa
> "I regularly go twice to the market every week."
>=20
> There the x1 is the actor because "lo ka ce'u re roi klama lo zarci"
> is an actor's property, but:
>=20
> lo zarci cu dikni lo ka mi re roi klama ce'u kei lo jeftu be li pa
> "The market is regularly gone to twice by me every week."
>=20
> Now the property is not the property of an actor, so x1 is not an actor.
>=20
> x1 is something that has property x2 every x3.

Ugh.

event x1 occurs every x2 would have been so much nicer.  :)

-Robin

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