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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: (Please note: I am *extremely* guilty of this) I've started truly memorizing the place structures, in detail, of every gismu, and also of a bunch of lujvo (basically, every time I find and use a lujvo, I add it to my list to memorize) and I've discovered something: with the exception of extremely regular shit like klama, 4 places is too fucking many. [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.160.61 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature (Please note: I am *extremely* guilty of this) I've started truly memorizing the place structures, in detail, of every gismu, and also of a bunch of lujvo (basically, every time I find and use a lujvo, I add it to my list to memorize) and I've discovered something: with the exception of extremely regular shit like klama, 4 places is too fucking many. Just because you're doing jvajvo doesn't mean you have to use *every* place available. 3 is plenty; if the person needs the other places they can whip out one of the original brivla. When I can't remember the place structure to *my own word* (rapcreze'a), shit be broken. My current favorite example is {nelrai}, although that's really traji's fault; the x4 *really* isn't useful. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.