Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:40480) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RbdLz-0006OT-PH; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:22:06 -0800 Received: by vbbfs19 with SMTP id fs19sf1477394vbb.16 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IDZOqIfJuik2l1L5qLsaViRAkZzpDIeJvGPktrkRXxU=; b=XXE1xn2vG+awZxcSvSfNMU6wowAleRX8cQMcjDnHyEGG+tlpAREaSI/5HCn1XZjBd+ x0t2Qg3o/9tR3eF0mSxXu38RwNC6Jb5rEUzgu4nqOuT6x8KlX4ZQ/SEF8kjfCFswa6UP hE219Ju4GHaph+ErF07JsBa/iOih4NZ9FpvuA= Received: by 10.52.76.8 with SMTP id g8mr858040vdw.16.1324063304383; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:44 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.30.129 with SMTP id u1ls1627236vcc.0.canary; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.181.5 with SMTP id ds5mr6955922vdc.5.1324063303842; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.181.5 with SMTP id ds5mr6955920vdc.5.1324063303834; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f175.google.com (mail-vx0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ij1si3154346vdb.3.2011.12.16.11.21.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.175; Received: by vcbf1 with SMTP id f1so1859896vcb.6 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.149.10 with SMTP id r10mr4647548vcv.38.1324063303735; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.103] (76-76-236-67.lisco.net. [76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d1sm9907423vdj.22.2011.12.16.11.21.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:21:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EEB9A44.3000403@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:21:40 -0600 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Mini-rant: gismu place consistency References: <20111216191725.GC22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20111216191725.GC22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-Original-Sender: celestialcognition@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=celestialcognition@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 12/16/2011 01:17 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > If I had it to do over again, every gismu with an agent place would > have it as the first place. Every gismu with an audience or second > agent of any type would have it as the second place. There would > probably be several other regularities as well. > > I've been saying {manci} and {melbi} to my babies *a lot*, and I > *still* have trouble remembering that it's {do melbi mi} and {mi > manci do}. GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. Perhaps there should be a central repository of things we'd like to fix when the next major version of lojban occurs. (There almost certainly will be one eventually if the language lasts long enough. Maybe it'll be in ten years, maybe a hundred, but it *will* need a major update *eventually*.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.