Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:32962) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RbdPj-0006Re-V3; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:26:02 -0800 Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3sf2441488pbc.16 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=PBwhbGbfPErmzJiy8uLC7m66lEP2VZQMrELB7kMJeeU=; b=ixjktWRDPwNqh9Yp03um7BlHzI8ZvYC0mra9UbVE7FXGkA6CXzevrWTAdHfZkBsdFv AUroEpZPkSjFlxvYCs78oHOKyrl/3gOta5MaOR6VY5ABiKW8r+HbfqGve+XHyAY7Dh9u zWYRHW0/T89nZX5hxC2FS+X1YmIrpAmc6IK/c= Received: by 10.68.190.202 with SMTP id gs10mr2556891pbc.16.1324063542096; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.14.101 with SMTP id o5ls15506049pbc.4.gmail; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr6853425pbv.0.1324063541507; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr6853424pbv.0.1324063541496; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n6si11603448pbg.2.2011.12.16.11.25.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RbdPY-0006RX-CO for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:40 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:25:40 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Mini-rant: gismu place consistency Message-ID: <20111216192540.GF22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111216191725.GC22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4EEB9A44.3000403@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EEB9A44.3000403@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 01:21:40PM -0600, vitci'i wrote: > On 12/16/2011 01:17 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > If I had it to do over again, every gismu with an agent place > > would have it as the first place. Every gismu with an audience > > or second agent of any type would have it as the second place. > > There would probably be several other regularities as well. > > > > I've been saying {manci} and {melbi} to my babies *a lot*, and I > > *still* have trouble remembering that it's {do melbi mi} and {mi > > manci do}. GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. > > Perhaps there should be a central repository of things we'd like > to fix when the next major version of lojban occurs. (There almost > certainly will be one eventually if the language lasts long > enough. Maybe it'll be in ten years, maybe a hundred, but it > *will* need a major update *eventually*.) I'm really hoping to avoid that. But I think there's at least one page on the wiki; search for loccan maybe? -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.