Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:35647) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RbdUx-0006U4-8g; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:24 -0800 Received: by iaeh11 with SMTP id h11sf4297999iae.16 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=L6roBXnu53rn/1zC8QIzDPpXnF3799Yh+i5HcB+3Gso=; b=fC0a+loYizx1nk5OdU8vOLoE4Q4SowXNzAbxihQi67gN+U4NiL5DGpmSn5AskUrSwM +PRah6eB2iPKjqVLWWYCoy3RekT7KLfNKFkXrHdAvcOW0Obqn5XAJlmfJCo5W9c3k+hZ uIYvn0Isjfapb1B1YGpSjCUxDrdRIRTz2FFkk= Received: by 10.50.154.131 with SMTP id vo3mr1053717igb.6.1324063865099; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.37.200 with SMTP id y8ls9053529ibd.2.gmail; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.190.2 with SMTP id gm2mr9605804pbc.4.1324063863608; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.190.2 with SMTP id gm2mr9605803pbc.4.1324063863599; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z2si11617009pbn.1.2011.12.16.11.31.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RbdUk-0006Ty-EV for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:02 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RbdUk-0006Tr-12 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:31:01 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Mini-rant: mutce and traji must die. Message-ID: <20111216193101.GG22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / The "towards extreme/direction X" is seriously the worst idea *ever*, for the simple reason that you can get *exactly the same effect* by throwing a {to'e} in the {ka} place. It's an extra place to memorize, and it makes understanding the meaning of the word *very* confusing. "mutce" doesn't actually mean "very", it means "very, or very not, or very orthogonal to, or, well, just about anything really". mi mutce lo ka nelci lo grute kei lo ka milxe And that's not even me *trying* to do messed up shit with that place. All of this would be acceptable, except that it keeps *infecting* *lujvo*. nelrai - x1 most loves x2... or most hates them, or is basically indifferent, or thinks they are blue, or who knows? nolrai - x1 is a king ... or whatever the opposite of a king is?, or who knows? These places must die! -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.