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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j5si11663229pbi.0.2011.12.16.11.46.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RbdjV-0006bR-Gi for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:46:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:46:17 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Mini-rant: gismu place consistency Message-ID: <20111216194617.GI22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111216191725.GC22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4EEB9A44.3000403@gmail.com> <20111216192540.GF22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4EEB9F63.5020302@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EEB9F63.5020302@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 01:43:31PM -0600, vitci'i wrote: > On 12/16/2011 01:25 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 01:21:40PM -0600, vitci'i wrote: > >> On 12/16/2011 01:17 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >>> > >>> If I had it to do over again, every gismu with an agent place > >>> would have it as the first place. Every gismu with an > >>> audience or second agent of any type would have it as the > >>> second place. There would probably be several other > >>> regularities as well. > >>> > >>> I've been saying {manci} and {melbi} to my babies *a lot*, and > >>> I *still* have trouble remembering that it's {do melbi mi} and > >>> {mi manci do}. GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. > >> > >> Perhaps there should be a central repository of things we'd > >> like to fix when the next major version of lojban occurs. > >> (There almost certainly will be one eventually if the language > >> lasts long enough. Maybe it'll be in ten years, maybe a > >> hundred, but it *will* need a major update *eventually*.) > > > > I'm really hoping to avoid that. But I think there's at least > > one page on the wiki; search for loccan maybe? > > Really? You want -tel- to still belong to {stela} instead of {te} > in the year 2200? When we finally clone a velociraptor, do you > want to have to ask {na'e gledji cinse fi ma lo xadni} because we > don't have a gismu for biological sex? When the Sun burns out and > you're visiting your grandkids-xiso'i in Andromeda, do you still > want *two different short rafsi* allocated to *Antarctica*? LOL. All those things can be fixed incrementally, was my point. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.