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my guess is that the 6 or so languages used to find common words as base
for gismu had all distinct terms for fast/slow... (as opposed to
fast/non-fast).
...and we might indeed want to make THAT kind of a difference between
killing and dying for example... a little bit like we want to distinguish
between "making love" and "raping": although one is just a slight variation
of the other, we kind of WANT to consider them different things altogether
(as to assign them very different terms).

dyabudy


2011/12/25 tsani nicte <nictytan@gmail.com>

> How come the gimste has somtimes a different gismu that's simply defined
> as the polar opposite of another? Why not just use to'e?
> The example that comes to mind is: sutra vs masno
>
> Conversely, I once saw a like of gismu that had both agentive and
> non-agentive versions. Why not just use -gau lujvo?
> The example that comes to mind is: catra vs morsi
>
> mu'o mi'e tan
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<br>my guess is that the 6 or so languages used to find common words as bas=
e for gismu had all distinct terms for fast/slow... (as opposed to fast/non=
-fast).<br>...and we might indeed want to make THAT kind of a difference be=
tween killing and dying for example... a little bit like we want to disting=
uish between &quot;making love&quot; and &quot;raping&quot;: although one i=
s just a slight variation of the other, we kind of WANT to consider them di=
fferent things altogether (as to assign them very different terms).<div>

<br></div><div>dyabudy</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/12=
/25 tsani nicte <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">

How come the gimste has somtimes a different gismu that&#39;s simply define=
d as the polar opposite of another? Why not just use to&#39;e?<div>The exam=
ple that comes to mind is: sutra vs masno</div><div><br></div><div>Converse=
ly, I once saw a like of gismu that had both agentive and non-agentive vers=
ions. Why not just use -gau lujvo?</div>


<div>The example that comes to mind is: catra vs morsi</div><div><br></div>=
<div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e tan</div><span><font color=3D"#888888">

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