Phonologically different pronunciation among native speakers is dialect = difference.

On Jan 9, 2012 11:17 AM, "Jonathan Jones&qu= ot; <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrot= e:

Differing pronunciation is "accent", not dialect.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Sebastian Fr=C3=B6jd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:

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I'm not a linguist but I just won= der if it's really the way Pierre describes it: that the concept dialec= t is defined by the usage of different words for the same thing, not by the= phonetic differences? For example, swedish may sound quite different depen= ding on where in Sweden you are, due to the different swedish "dialect= s". Incidentally there are also some specific words for different swed= ish "dialects", which I've always regarded as a secondary cha= racteristic of dialects. I also wonder what the geographical ja cultural le= vel are in the definition of a dialect. Has any lujvo yet been defined for = the concept of dialect, sociolect and accent, respectively? Since gismu gen= erally has a very vague/broad semantic range, I think you could use zo &quo= t;bangu" even when speaking of different dialects/accents, right? So i= f you would like to explicit speak of languages (definition?), not dialects= nor something else, you'll need a lujvo specifically for that also, ri= ght?

However, I think it's a good thing that lojban is a bit flexible wi= th the pronounciation of phonemes. I think it makes sense to speak lojban w= ith different accents and melody. It also makes lojban easier to learn for = people of different cultural backgrounds. For example I like to pronounce &= quot;ng" in lojban nasal as in "sing", as long as you can he= ar the g in the end, and similar small variations depending on the phonetic= context.

And even if lojban has more restrictions than natlang, I think lojban w= ill develop quite different in different parts of the world as the communit= y grows. For example In which combinations of grammatical constructs, tanru= and attitudinals different social groups prefer.
The most important thing would still be to be able understand each other, r= ight?

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