Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:64609) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp4RD-0001Fo-04; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:55:01 -0800 Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10sf2278386bka.16 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-nvg-mailscanner-information :x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=MA4O4Sz9sOER3oxi3IGdr8tW7WEkutvD0hDiWCt6MFk=; b=6oWcs/19kA80OON9DoRF+y/9vcw4bejlbILTCdayx8mNnX42OeXAKwnXwG3zW/0QpF Yh3NKcZNQkKpXjSvajyjnZy5ZhzYhtDscWCZATW80tjaQQBcuTmXRK5ECDVzoDQupRxs mEvOIo6t+K/VwsP2gJ0v+VudyvvJM0jv7Hfsw= Received: by 10.204.156.205 with SMTP id y13mr390430bkw.30.1327265684544; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:44 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.200.144 with SMTP id ew16ls8717960bkb.2.gmail; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.150.77 with SMTP id x13mr435155bkv.4.1327265680556; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.150.77 with SMTP id x13mr435154bkv.4.1327265680544; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no. [129.241.210.67]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si13134980bko.3.2012.01.22.12.54.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=129.241.210.67; Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:92e6:baff:fe68:dd1c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE594787 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:54:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (arj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id q0MKsQ9s031951 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:54:26 +0100 Received: (from arj@localhost) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id q0MKsPF0031949 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:54:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:54:25 +0100 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Bayesian evidential? Message-ID: <20120122205425.GG24736@nvg.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Original-Sender: arj@nvg.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=arj@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:02:08AM -0500, DataPacRat wrote: > [...] it would be useful to have an evidential that could > assign an integer's value as the strength of the speaker's belief in > what's being said. For some rough English examples: "(Bayes 6) It's > going to rain today" meaning I believe there's an 80% of rain; Not an evidential, but {cu'o} (selmaho MOI) is the probability selbri converter. lo nu carvi ca le cabdei cu pi bi cu'o -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Taboos abound in almost any aspect of Tuvan life. [...] To name an example: the introduction of the Latin alphabet in 1930 was also believed to impose a threat on the health of women expecting a child. -- Mark C. van Tongeren: Overtone Singing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.