Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:42329) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RqEaK-0001vk-A5; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:57:15 -0800 Received: by yenr5 with SMTP id r5sf13236yen.16 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:57:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hnm4SOIzyGdHNhhvelTQYDm8Io7SES0GsAm2BOtI/Hg=; b=BsRtqMO8PT+sIDrOyPh1LmO83fqmPdtf0KAsNSQtDC0gu5IDAjN0Vy0jeZbmRrubXU 2ztuOUvtP09Gi6bQInvOTBWlG4ekbVlvpG6c376ve0bd4OnhHQDgdsVGsgu1VmZmftrr epSvA2++BDSvxPPhdjdCuBPL3L10RIJ3ADrDY= Received: by 10.236.190.37 with SMTP id d25mr2355yhn.20.1327543018814; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.181.36 with SMTP id i36ls1809913anp.3.gmail; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.165.40 with SMTP id s40mr75941ano.9.1327543017315; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.165.40 with SMTP id s40mr75939ano.9.1327543017299; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f170.google.com (mail-gy0-f170.google.com [209.85.160.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e44si1167748yhk.0.2012.01.25.17.56.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jacfold.guskant@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.170; Received: by ghrr13 with SMTP id r13so35603ghr.15 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.9.106 with SMTP id 70mr18357yhs.118.1327543017179; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.63.65 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:56:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120126004518.GI11054@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <13241564.889.1327536299038.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prfq33> <8130534B93E142DEB3632FCE60C9EFC2@gmail.com> <01174A07C02E4D4EB0EDCBD6E3DF3440@gmail.com> <20120126004518.GI11054@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: guskant Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:56:37 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A phrase with all the phonemes of Lojban? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gusni.kantu@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jacfold.guskant@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jacfold.guskant@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Sorry, not "all the consonant clusters" but all the permissible pairs of consonants excluding syllabic consonants. Consonant pairs may be pronounced at once, or separately with a consonant buffer. lo tavla may select one of the possible pronunciations, but lo se tavla should catch the words with any possible pronunciations. That is the reason why I would like to obtain such a phrase with all the phonemes with all the diphthongs and permissible consonant pairs. Or, consonant pairs in the phrase may be limited to the permissible pairs of initial consonants for the purpose of testing pronunciation. Such a phrase will be quite long, but how about a poem that satisfies the conditions above? On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > The example English phrase you gave doesn't even come close. > > And no, I don't think we have one of those. =A0It would be very large. > > -Robin > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:37:14AM +0900, guskant wrote: >> Thanks, but I would like to obtain a phrase that includes all the >> diphthongs and all the consonant clusters. >> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Craig Daniel w= rote: >> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Brockman = wrote: >> >> You need {le purdi}, not {lo purdi}=97there=92s no {e} anywhere else.= :-) >> > >> > Curse my post-xorlonian habits! >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro= ups "lojban" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googl= egroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/l= ojban?hl=3Den. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loj= ban?hl=3Den. >> >> > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni = li'u > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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