Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:33498) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RqIih-00037Y-2X; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:22:11 -0800 Received: by wera13 with SMTP id a13sf347580wer.16 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JVvz38iw/PIzBwD0EZXYUi7GhFtv4JlThouUyigdPUs=; b=PpORsrdzCXYjFVayQU+VhP+SsNQf5mc1E+zsRunJ/75tJ1If3BM/Zkc19r8N9Vqrtx m5xpE2Z8XAakYTu2YGDJhpG/OoihWyXqfJfpl54r9nY/Sx3SnG+afMtsuFz87SehbuPy 2tZS845fodb0pk2vB1oB/XNnRcZneYTDcGbh4= Received: by 10.216.134.135 with SMTP id s7mr21593wei.41.1327558911402; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.141.29 with SMTP id f29ls6492982wej.1.gmail; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.78.37 with SMTP id y5mr115371wiw.1.1327558910453; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.78.37 with SMTP id y5mr115370wiw.1.1327558910435; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u6si1678909wiu.0.2012.01.25.22.21.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.179; Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so148420wib.38 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.87.8 with SMTP id t8mr1805603wiz.15.1327558910273; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.13.20 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:21:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <13241564.889.1327536299038.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prfq33> <8130534B93E142DEB3632FCE60C9EFC2@gmail.com> <01174A07C02E4D4EB0EDCBD6E3DF3440@gmail.com> <20120126004518.GI11054@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A phrase with all the phonemes of Lojban? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444ee1b43e98b04b7686563 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0444ee1b43e98b04b7686563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like a good project. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. stevo On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:56 PM, guskant wrote: > Sorry, not "all the consonant clusters" but all the permissible pairs > of consonants excluding syllabic consonants. Consonant pairs may be > pronounced at once, or separately with a consonant buffer. lo tavla > may select one of the possible pronunciations, but lo se tavla should > catch the words with any possible pronunciations. That is the reason > why I would like to obtain such a phrase with all the phonemes with > all the diphthongs and permissible consonant pairs. Or, consonant > pairs in the phrase may be limited to the permissible pairs of initial > consonants for the purpose of testing pronunciation. Such a phrase > will be quite long, but how about a poem that satisfies the conditions > above? > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > The example English phrase you gave doesn't even come close. > > > > And no, I don't think we have one of those. It would be very large. > > > > -Robin > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:37:14AM +0900, guskant wrote: > >> Thanks, but I would like to obtain a phrase that includes all the > >> diphthongs and all the consonant clusters. > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Craig Daniel > wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Brockman > wrote: > >> >> You need {le purdi}, not {lo purdi}=97there=92s no {e} anywhere els= e. :-) > >> > > >> > Curse my post-xorlonian habits! > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > >> > >> > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakn= i > li'u > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --f46d0444ee1b43e98b04b7686563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like a good project. I look forward to seeing what you come up with.= =A0

stevo

On Wed, Jan = 25, 2012 at 8:56 PM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, not "all the consonant clusters&= quot; but all the permissible pairs
of consonants excluding syllabic consonants. Consonant pairs may be
pronounced at once, or separately with a consonant buffer. lo tavla
may select one of the possible pronunciations, but lo se tavla should
catch the words with any possible pronunciations. That is the reason
why I would like to obtain such a phrase with all the phonemes with
all the diphthongs and permissible consonant pairs. Or, consonant
pairs in the phrase may be limited to the permissible pairs of initial
consonants for the purpose of testing pronunciation. Such a phrase
will be quite long, but how about a poem that satisfies the conditions
above?


On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.= org> wrote:
> The example English phrase you gave doesn't even come close.
>
> And no, I don't think we have one of those. =A0It would be very la= rge.
>
> -Robin
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:37:14AM +0900, guskant wrote:
>> Thanks, but I would like to obtain a phrase that includes all the<= br> >> diphthongs and all the consonant clusters.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Craig Daniel <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Brockman <dbrockman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> You need {le purdi}, not {lo purdi}=97there=92s no {e} an= ywhere else. :-)
>> >
>> > Curse my post-xorlonian habits!
>> >
>> > --
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the G= oogle Groups "lojban" group.
>> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.c= om.
>> > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.c= om/group/lojban?hl=3Den.
>> >
>>
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>> For more options, visit this group at
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>>
>>
>
> --
> http://singinst.org= / : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li&#= 39;u .e
> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'= u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu l= o mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u
>
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