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I believe there are too many places to talk about lojban now. 
Although it's nice that lojban is spreading I see the same people talking 
in different places.

I can remember

   1. lojban.org wiki pages
   2. different Google docs edited by the community
   3. lojban.org archive, primarily unsorted and chaotic
   4. lojban irc chat. At least four channels #lojban, #ckule, #makfa, 
   #jbopre. Although some extracts from it are selectively being put onto 
   lojban.org wiki
   5. https://groups.google.com/group/lojban
   6. https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners
   7. https://groups.google.com/group/jbofanva
   8. http://lojbantime.blogspot.com
   9. http://lojban.livejournal.com/ 
   10. yahoo group (rather dead)
   11. jbotcan.org
   12. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2213906704/ 
   13. https://plus.google.com/111885648105308968553/posts
   14. twitter channel
   15. Mumble channel
   16. Lojbanic Skype group
   17. vk.com/menli.bangu (Russian forum)
   18. lojban-ru.livejournal.com (Russian forum, rather dead)
   19. google groups Japanese forum

Items #9 through #12 actually duplicate each other. If they facebook or G+ 
allow creating topics in a group then they also clash with this google group

I understand that #7 is created by individual lojbanists. I'm grateful that 
they are spreading info on lojban further.
I understand that facebook and G+ are struggling to defeat each other (what 
does lojbanists has to do with it ?)

May be I forgot about some other resourses but isn't this factionalism 
enough ?

Why not select few services and put everything there ?

   - lojban wiki
   - lojban discussion forum that allows creating subforums for non-English 
   lojbanists
   - lojban voice chat

P.S. Google Wave was nice for chats but I'm not sure whether current Apache 
Wave is reasonable.

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I believe there are too many places to talk about lojban now.&nbsp;<div>Alt=
hough it's nice that lojban is spreading I see the same people talking in d=
ifferent places.</div><div><br></div><div>I can remember</div><div><ol><li>=
lojban.org wiki pages<br></li><li>different Google docs edited by the commu=
nity</li><li>lojban.org archive, primarily unsorted and chaotic<br></li><li=
>lojban irc chat. At least four channels #lojban, #ckule, #makfa, #jbopre. =
Although some extracts from it are selectively being put onto lojban.org wi=
ki<br></li><li>https://groups.google.com/group/lojban<br></li><li>https://g=
roups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners</li><li>https://groups.google.com/g=
roup/jbofanva</li><li>http://lojbantime.blogspot.com<br></li><li><span styl=
e=3D"line-height: normal; ">http://lojban.livejournal.com/&nbsp;</span></li=
><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; ">yahoo group (rather dead)</span>=
</li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; ">jbotcan.org<br></span></li><=
li>https://www.facebook.com/groups/2213906704/&nbsp;<br></li><li>https://pl=
us.google.com/111885648105308968553/posts</li><li>twitter channel</li><li>M=
umble channel</li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; ">Lojbanic Skype =
group</span></li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; ">vk.com/menli.ban=
gu (Russian forum)</span></li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; ">loj=
ban-ru.livejournal.com (Russian forum, rather dead)</span></li><li><span st=
yle=3D"line-height: normal; ">google groups Japanese forum</span></li></ol>=
Items #9 through #12 actually duplicate each other. If they facebook or G+ =
allow creating topics in a group then they also clash with this google grou=
p</div><div><br></div><div>I understand that #7 is created by individual lo=
jbanists. I'm grateful that they are spreading info on lojban further.</div=
><div>I understand that facebook and G+ are struggling to defeat each other=
 (what does lojbanists has to do with it ?)</div><div><br></div><div><div s=
tyle=3D"border-style: initial; border-color: initial; ">May be I forgot abo=
ut some other resourses but isn't this factionalism enough ?</div><br class=
=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div>Why not select few services and p=
ut everything there ?</div><div><ul><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal;=
">lojban wiki</span></li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal;">lojban di=
scussion forum that allows creating subforums for non-</span><span style=3D=
"line-height: normal; ">English lojbanists</span></li><li><span style=3D"li=
ne-height: normal;">lojban voice chat</span></li></ul>P.S.&nbsp;Google Wave=
 was nice for chats but I'm not sure whether current Apache Wave is reasona=
ble.</div>

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