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On Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As much as possible, yes. Since it's meant for people who have little to
no Lojban knowledge, it either can't be,
* or would be
> extremely difficult to,  put in entirely, exclusively,  Lojban.
>
> That said, the more of it that is in Lojban, the better. Most foreign
language teachers in my experience establish a "only this language is
allowed in this class" rule. The comic's class should have that rule as
soon as the characters are able to say a complete
* bridi.
> Even one as simple as {mi pendo}.
>
> There are two reasons for this. One, the more Lojban readers (and
characters) are exposed to the language the more quickly and easily they
will acquire it. You do need to be careful not to do anything too complex,
however. Two, the less non-Lojban in the comic, the
* less
> translating work needs to done for non-English nintadni.
>

Sorry, the auto correct on this thing isn't perfect, and I don't always
catch all of its screw-ups.

> to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi
>
> mu'o mi'e.aionys.
>
> On Jan 30, 2012 3:02 PM, "vitci&apos;i" <celestialcognition@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> My suggestion is to also publish the comic in lojban.
>>
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<p><br>
On Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM, &quot;Jonathan Jones&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e=
yeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; As much as possible, yes. Since it&#39;s meant for people who have lit=
tle to no Lojban knowledge, it either can&#39;t be, <br>
* or would be<br>
&gt; extremely difficult to,=A0 put in entirely, exclusively,=A0 Lojban.<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; That said, the more of it that is in Lojban, the better. Most foreign =
language teachers in my experience establish a &quot;only this language is =
allowed in this class&quot; rule. The comic&#39;s class should have that ru=
le as soon as the characters are able to say a complete <br>

* bridi. <br>
&gt; Even one as simple as {mi pendo}.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There are two reasons for this. One, the more Lojban readers (and char=
acters) are exposed to the language the more quickly and easily they will a=
cquire it. You do need to be careful not to do anything too complex, howeve=
r. Two, the less non-Lojban in the comic, the<br>

* less<br>
&gt; translating work needs to done for non-English nintadni.<br>
&gt;</p>
<p>Sorry, the auto correct on this thing isn&#39;t perfect, and I don&#39;t=
 always catch all of its screw-ups.</p>
<p>&gt; to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; mu&#39;o mi&#39;e.aionys.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Jan 30, 2012 3:02 PM, &quot;vitci&amp;apos;i&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:celestialcognition@gmail.com">celestialcognition@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; My suggestion is to also publish the comic in lojban.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt;<br>
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