Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:44238) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RsE8B-0008BX-Dq; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:34 -0800 Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35sf81976iac.16 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RTTqADgxNUHtDdI7oMUiody/2K3LFVImWEYmk2ErehY=; b=ebInT+FvBOUxiuVyOZeCIa7ywSNLZH2sLJEYPqZBC3iWy5EJjp/5Bm6RWnaRkNNHSE okmYalWqbpAiE+hUbA6QPaU7pmYph5bov+d2XvYwPrrZZ0aG+cfb1Ri9uZynpH8+rNBS sY4pL1BcYSO4Te40fmlTOJSFz0WbWzPniKNRI= Received: by 10.50.34.201 with SMTP id b9mr585249igj.1.1328017930226; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.216.230 with SMTP id ot6ls2669184igc.3.gmail; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.131.74 with SMTP id y10mr1234046ics.0.1328017929635; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.131.74 with SMTP id y10mr1234044ics.0.1328017929619; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f177.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dk6si6500820igb.1.2012.01.31.05.52.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.177; Received: by obcuz6 with SMTP id uz6so7704367obc.22 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.159.105 with SMTP id xb9mr35389275obb.63.1328017929265; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:52:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.61.167 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:51:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F271362.50803@gmail.com> From: ".arpis." Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:51:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A comics: "lojbo ckule" To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93996f9ede18d04b7d344ec X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93996f9ede18d04b7d344ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > As much as possible, yes. Since it's meant for people who have little to > no Lojban knowledge, it either can't be, our would extremely difficult to, > put in entirely, exclusively, Lojban. > Not quite disagreeing, but I'm reminded of "The Universal Language", a play by David Ives, where approximately half the action takes place in a constructed (mostly nonsense) language that the audience did not know before the show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJzIUuJmOs > That said, the more of it that is in Lojban, the better. Most foreign > language teachers in my experience establish a "only this language is > allowed in this class" rule. The comic's class should have that rule as > soon as the characters are able to say a complete bridie. Even one as > simple as {mi pendo}. > > There are two reasons for this. One, the more Lojban readers (and > characters) are exposed to the language the more quickly and easily they > will acquire it. You do need to be careful not to do anything too complex, > however. Two, the less non-Lojban in the comic, the Leeds translating work > needs to done for non-English nintadni. > > to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi > > mu'o mi'e.aionys. > On Jan 30, 2012 3:02 PM, "vitci'i" > wrote: > >> My suggestion is to also publish the comic in lojban. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@= gmail.com> wrote:

As much as possible, yes. Since it's meant for people who have littl= e to no Lojban knowledge, it either can't be, our would extremely diffi= cult to,=A0 put in entirely, exclusively,=A0 Lojban.

Not quite disagreeing, but I'm reminded of "The Universal Language= ", a play by David Ives, where approximately half the action takes pla= ce in a constructed (mostly nonsense) language that the audience did not kn= ow before the show.

https://www.y= outube.com/watch?v=3D1DJzIUuJmOs

That said, the more of it that is in Lojban, the better. Most foreign la= nguage teachers in my experience establish a "only this language is al= lowed in this class" rule. The comic's class should have that rule= as soon as the characters are able to say a complete bridie. Even one as s= imple as {mi pendo}.

There are two reasons for this. One, the more Lojban readers (and charac= ters) are exposed to the language the more quickly and easily they will acq= uire it. You do need to be careful not to do anything too complex, however.= Two, the less non-Lojban in the comic, the Leeds translating work needs to= done for non-English nintadni.

to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi

mu'o mi'e.aionys.

On Jan 3= 0, 2012 3:02 PM, "vitci&apos;i" <celestialcognition@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
My suggestion is to also publish the comic in lojban.

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